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re: JD Vance On Ukraine: “We’re Done.”

Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:59 am to
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37846 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:59 am to
The basement dwelling Call of Duty keyboard warriors over on the O-T thread are going to be seething in the fetal position about this.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17174 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:44 pm to
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So since this clearly isn't an article 5 situation, you are advocating for the continuance of Team America: World Police?



Yes.

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Morally I don't disagree with your stance.



Then follow it.

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But I have grown weary of American men and women dieing all over the world.



Blame Bush who never should have started a war in an area of the world that does not understand or want human rights, women's rights fairness or democracy. Eastern Europe and Ukraine - different story. It might be a Muslim vs Christian thing too.

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You said yourself that Russia is weak. They aren't a threat we need to spill red, white, and blue blood over.



It's a worthy fight for freedom and it affects us. We (America) should not allow a "new world order" ot biggies beating up on "little ones" - ex. China taking over Taiwan.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73473 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:10 pm to
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1) Hold out long enough for European MIC to get up to speed 2) Utilize aid from NATO and hand me down US weapons to eliminate Russia's ability to project power and invade other sovereign nations.

This has been the plan all along, and now Trump understands this is the way.


And here are they going to get the men to use those weapons in this grand offensive? Drones and bullets are great. But men take and hold ground. Where will Ukraine get those men?
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2675 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:44 pm to
Vance is taking orders from Putin just like Donnie is.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:10 pm to
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Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict. The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.


We can't stop them short of sending troops and air power lots of it. The Europeans don't really want to spend their own money...plus no arms are really available without disarming our own guys.

Stop dreaming
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:22 pm to
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Russia is holding like 3 acres of Ukraine


Russian holds 20% of ukraine
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