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re: Jay Sekulow is pleased with SCOTUS...
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:56 am to oogabooga68
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:56 am to oogabooga68
Jay fought off the Dems in Congress let him have his hour.
It's not a victory
It's not a victory
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:00 am to Tmcgin
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Jay fought off the Dems in Congress let him have his hour. It's not a victory
You report back to us by November 3 -- when you see Trump's tax returns.
Cuz THAT is what this is all about.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:05 pm to jatilen
this thread needs stickied because the decision today was so confusing. there will be tree fiddy threads...
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:09 pm to loogaroo
isn't the day coming where SCOTUS justices announce retirements before they go on a big arse break?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:22 pm to loogaroo
I think this means that the President is not immune from turning over tax records but it also means that the Dirty DA, Cyrus Vance Jr., has to show valid justifications for obtaining the records and he has to show exactly which records he wants, which narrows access significantly. In other words, this is not a hunting license for congress or the NY DA. So far, Vance and congress have not been able to provide valid justification for obtaining Trump's tax returns. So basically, though Vance has grand jury power, he has nothing to present to a grand jury because he cannot justify the need to gain access to the records.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:29 pm to bizeagle
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I think this means that the President is not immune from turning over tax records but it also means that the Dirty DA, Cyrus Vance Jr., has to show valid justifications for obtaining the records and he has to show exactly which records he wants, which narrows access significantly.
Exactly.
That is why it was sent back to the lower courts and why they are not coming out today. And likely won't be for months/years/ever.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:38 pm to bizeagle
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I think this means that the President is not immune from turning over tax records but it also means that the Dirty DA, Cyrus Vance Jr., has to show valid justifications for obtaining the records and he has to show exactly which records he wants, which narrows access significantly. In other words, this is not a hunting license for congress or the NY DA.
The Vance case also laid out all of the President's possible defenses and almost implied that they should be upheld.
Here's what the Court stated in its summary --
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President may avail himself of the same protec-tions ... which usually include bad faith and undue burden or breadth. When the President invokes such protections, “[t]he high respect that is owed to the office of the Chief Executive . . . should inform the conduct of the entire pro-ceeding, including the timing and scope of discovery.” Clinton, 520 U. S., at 707. In addition, a President can raise subpoena-specific constitutional challenges in either a state or a federal forum. As noted above, he can challenge the subpoena as an attempt to influence the performance of his official duties, in violation of the Supremacy Clause. And he can argue that compliance with a particular subpoena would impede his constitutional duties.
It's like Roberts is giving Trump a roadmap to quash these subpoenas.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 5:58 pm
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