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re: J6 prisoner speaks out. ‘I have been held 1000 days without trial.’

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:19 am to
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Yep. And when you are fighting a war for “the soul of our nation” with “democracy hanging in the balance” against “racist Nazis”, any methods and tactics, no matter how unconstitutional, are on the table.


Precisely.

Some "oppressors" serve their purpose under Marxism. Values mean nothing.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59289 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:21 am to
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Youre totally owned by identity politics
You and your buddies are obsessed with identity politics! I don’t even align myself with any groups. I think critically about each issue and form an opinion. I know you desperately want me to be some airhead mouthpiece for the ultra left but that’s not the case. This constant gaslighting is so annoying.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59289 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:23 am to
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What is the crime? What did this dude do to deserve you wanting him wasting away?
what was he charged with when he was arrested?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:28 am to
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I know you desperately want me to be some airhead mouthpiece for the ultra left but that’s not the case.
We know who you are desperate to be some airhead mouthpiece for...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:29 am to
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You and your buddies are obsessed with identity politics!


People are people. Human and individual until they adopt a collective identity.

All lives matter.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:30 am to
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I think critically about each issue and form an opinion. I know you desperately want me to be some airhead mouthpiece for the ultra left but that’s not the case


No, you seem to see everything through the oppressed/oppressor marxist lens.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59289 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:32 am to
I didn't adopt any collective identity. That's the point.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55429 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:32 am to
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I know you desperately want me to be some airhead mouthpiece for the ultra left but that’s not the case.


Sorry Cubbies, but your post history says otherwise. I know you have good intentions, but you’re helping pave a road to hell. I was the same way decades ago. You’ll wake up eventually.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59289 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:33 am to
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No, you seem to see everything through the oppressed/oppressor marxist lens.



This is pretty rich in a thread titled
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J6 prisoner speaks out. ‘I have been held 1000 days without trial.’


Who is decrying the oppressors now?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:36 am to
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Who is decrying the oppressors now?


Its you making it into an identity issue.

If you had values, it wouldn't matter to you.

The government is always the oppressor.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 11:37 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59289 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:40 am to
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The difference here is that these J6 people are being targeted and treated differently solely for their political beliefs.


This is supposed to be worse than people who are targeted for being poor? Or black? You know I like you and respect you, this is not personal, but you and others in this thread only care about this prolonged pre-trial detention because the person being held looks like you and/or shares your political views.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:41 am to
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This is supposed to be worse than people who are targeted for being poor? Or black?


Its you making the distinction, no one else.

Youre having a conversation with yourself.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 11:42 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55429 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:42 am to
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This is supposed to be worse than people who are targeted for being poor? Or black? You know I like you and respect you, this is not personal, but you and others in this thread only care about this prolonged pre-trial detention because the person being held looks like you and/or shares your political views.


Never mind, you are too far gone.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24080 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:42 am to
This is how you radicalize a group.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24817 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:42 am to
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Youre having a conversation with yourself.


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59289 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:42 am to
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Its you making it into an identity issue.



How?

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If you had values, it wouldn't matter to you.



It doesn't matter to me. I keep posting about how this happens all across the country every day and it's really messed up. We should care about everyone who is detained for exceptionally long periods in pre-trial detention. Even if they're democrats.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57241 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:43 am to
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This is supposed to be worse than people who are targeted for being poor? Or black?
. I don’t think they are targeted for those reasons as often as many would think. I think the system as a whole fails individual defendants , but it isn’t a coordinated attack because of any attribute in particular. The J6 prosecution is.

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You know I like you and respect you,

Likewise. Especially now that you’re middle aged!!!
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57241 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:43 am to
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We should care about everyone who is detained for exceptionally long periods in pre-trial detention. Even if they're democrats.


Agreed.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59289 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:44 am to
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Never mind, you are too far gone.



I would love for you or anyone else to prove me wrong. Please link any thread about the injustice of prolonged pre-trial detention that was posted before this one. Have some self-awareness.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 11:45 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:45 am to
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It doesn't matter to me


Youre the only one making any distinctions in this thread.

Subject: Man held for years with no trial.

Cubbies: If he was black you wouldnt care!

Me: yes, I would, why are you bringing up race? Youre obssessed with identity.

Cubbies: No, its you that obsessed with identity!

Me: Then being white or black doesn't matter

Cubbies: None of that matters to me!

Yes, its that damn frustrating.
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