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re: It’s amazing to me how successfully the Left has normalized the unthinkable

Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Did they breach Congress? Were they to disrupt a specific event in Congress?


They breached White House fencing. Prompting the SS to move Trump to the White House Bunker.

Remember that being a running Leftist joke? And not an attempted insurrection?

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A more extreme/outlier event directly to a political entity/politicians individually will lead to a much larger direct political response.


Except it didn’t per above.

Didn’t in the attempted assassination of Brett Kavanaugh either did it?

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The law is subjective based on perceived/actual threat. A riot outside of Congress will be different to Congress than a riot in St. Lous would be to Congress.


But attempted breach of the White House is explained away. And then the “Trump had the protestors removed so they couldn’t protest” took over.

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It's not about being "more concerning". It's just different than a riot elsewhere


Except for one guy… curiously:






This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Context matters.


Then perhaps you should learn some.

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Pronouns have frick all to do with sex.


Pronouns are male, female or neutral. The former two do indeed have "frick all to do with sex".

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I know you'd rather live in a world where you don't need to use your brain to think through nuanced situations. Unfortunately you do not live in that world.


Go away child, adults are discoursing.
Posted by LSUconvert
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:37 pm to
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The former two do indeed have "frick all to do with sex".


Did you really read what I said about how you're ignoring context and think to yourself "He thinks THAT was ignoring context, I've got an even better one for him!"?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Pronouns are male, female or neutral. The former two do indeed have "frick all to do with sex".

Wrong.

Pronouns are masculine, feminine or neuter. They don't have to do with sex. That's how you can refer to an inanimate object, such as a boat, with a feminine pronoun, "She's a good boat." The boat is feminine, but has no actual sex.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:40 pm to
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Did you really read what I said about how you're ignoring context and think to yourself "He thinks THAT was ignoring context, I've got an even better one for him!"?


Fairy tale board. When you need interpretation to understand "truth" its no truth.

LINK

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59717 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:42 pm to
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I suppose that was probably part of the point of the multiple interspersed indictments, but I’m still sort of amazed at how easily they’ve gotten so many, so quickly, to get onboard with the notion that this is simply how we will do things now and that’s how it is. Anyone else still flabbergasted by it all?


The left declared war about 7 years ago. A lot of people can’t allow themselves to accept it.

It’s easier to pretend that reverting to a model from 1998 is what we need.

A group that is willing to blatantly steal an election, is willing to do ANYTHING.

They are coming after you and me if they defeat Trump.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59717 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:43 pm to
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They have the entire media and cultural apparatus on their side.


This was done over a period of decades.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:44 pm to
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The left declared war about 7 years ago. A lot of people can’t allow themselves to accept it.


Exactly. They started the cultural war, and pretend to be upset when you notice it.

The first volleys came from their camp.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59717 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:46 pm to
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A more deft politician may have been able to maneuver the Russia stuff better but he couldn't, and they smelled blood.




This is what I’m talking about. Many aren’t willing to acknowledge what is happening. It’s easier to blame Trump and pretend that electing someone else solves this problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:50 pm to
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f a former Secretary of State is completely immune…

Link me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Even if those protests are about the same thing? That's justifying application of the law by political class.

Or, you know, distance.

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It shouldn't be. It should be considered a far more egregious thing to take action against random people who have no hand in your issues than it should be when directing your ire towards those who do.

How do you perceive a direct or actual threat form a person without tactical missiles 1500 miles away?

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It's okay to investigate people solely for having a stance contrary to the government, as long as they aren't arrested?

I never said it's "OK". You're creating a strawman. Discuss this honestly.

Your example didn't fit your argument.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59717 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:52 pm to
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You can't honestly expect there would be no response to a riot outside of Congress and people breaking into the building to disrupt the ceremonial transfer of power. It was never going to happen


I don’t agree with your characterization of those events. But even if true, shouldn’t you be justifying it based on an attempt by the Democrats to plant fake evidence and attempt to criminalize the sitting president for being an agent of Russia…by abusing the powers of the DOJ and FBI?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:55 pm to
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This was done over a period of decades.

Yes. The Left was smarter and invested in more important institutions (the media, academia, etc.) for politics than the right (church, suburbs)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:56 pm to
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shouldn’t you be justifying it based on an attempt by the Democrats to plant fake evidence and attempt to criminalize the sitting president for being an agent of Russia

There should have been repercussions for this, legal ones. This illegal riot justification is not rationally related to the illegality.

I'll state again, the Left is just smarter when it comes to this stuff. MAGA is really, really bad and terrible at planning or forming strategy.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:58 pm to
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It’s amazing to me how successfully the Left has normalized the unthinkable
Here's your answer: “If I were the devil“, by Paul Harvey. Recorded in 1965 Prophetic…
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:03 pm to
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But there are also the more-thoughtful folks who just do not think that anyone ... even a former POTUS ... is above the law.
As many times as this is repeated… it doesn’t make it any more true than the last.

If it was remotely true…. You may not have the outrage today.
Outrage from whom? Your comment makes no sense.
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“No reasonable prosecutor” remember?
Thousands of people have said that about thousands of cases through the years. Please give me the author/speaker and some context for your comment.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
14642 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Link me.


Well.. ok. Since your search skills suck.



Watch this to see the multiple violations of classified and Top Secret email mishandling

Now read this to see the outcome of those blatant violations:

All those federal violations……. No reasonable prosecutor.

Now. Watch that and tell me what the Hub bub about Mar a Lago is.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
14642 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:10 pm to
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No reasonable prosecutor” remember?


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Thousands of people have said that about thousands of cases through the years. Please give me the author/speaker and some context for your comment.


You cannot be serious.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Link me (to the instance that you vaguely reference)
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Well.. ok. Since your search skills suck.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59717 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:11 pm to
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There should have been repercussions for this, legal ones. This illegal riot justification is not rationally related to the illegality.


Legal remedies that should have been available aren’t because of the same abuse.

It’s illegal. You just excuse it.
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