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re: It is time for total war against ISIS

Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:04 pm to
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A bunch of dessert dwellers running around in pickup trucks with AKs are going to navigate a boat w/ a sophisticated bomb in it from the dessert of the Middle East to the Gulf of Mexico? Are you insane?


A. Racist/ethnocentrist

B. You're really, really dumb. Libya's spent the last 30+ years running arms via ships. Do you think it would be very difficult for ISIS to take advantage of the failed state there and get aboard a ship?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:05 pm to
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B. You're really, really dumb. Libya's spent the last 30+ years running arms via ships. Do you think it would be very difficult for ISIS to take advantage of the failed state there and get aboard a ship?



You're right. I forgot that ISIS is comprised of expert bomb-makers and international frigate sailors.

Also guess we're fricked since no ports on North America have security measures.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:07 pm to
Carpet bombing the whole ISIS area, starting in the south and work our way north. Should happen Thursday. My dad carpet bombed Nazi's in Europe and North Africa and later Korea. Nothing to it, if it's like we did the German Nazi's.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:09 pm to
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Are you implying the feat is impossible? Seriously?


its not impossible but its not going to be easy.

there were some stories in 2004 or so about people being pulled over in metro areas due to radiation warnings. They had just been getting treatment for cancer.

but the detectors caught them. Do you think we don't have these on ports and at border crossings? Certainly that stuff can be smuggled in but its not going to be super easy.

I think a way more realistic scenario is a suicide bomber in a major metro area.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:14 pm to
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You're right. I forgot that ISIS is comprised of expert bomb-makers



It's not very difficult to make a dirty bomb once you have the materials.

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international frigate sailors.


Can you read?

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Also guess we're fricked since no ports on North America have security measures.



Libya has 30+ years of experience running arms. In Europe, FFS. Their ports are much better than Mexico's/insert CA nation



I'm not saying they'll do it (they seem much more focused on consolidating power in the ME first), but to say they don't have the ability is fricking moronic.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Matrixman
Texas
Member since Apr 2010
719 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:30 pm to
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Impossible, no. Of course not. I'd never let you "win" an argument by speaking that irrationally


Irrationally? My friend you fail to grasp one simple fact. We're dealing with religious fanatics...zealots if you want to call them. The most dangerous enemy to confront. They [ISIS etal] believe that God [excuse me - Allah] is on their side. After all Allah [they're convinced] has blessed them, in that ONE of their greatest enemy [Israel being number one] has elected a weak, narcassistic sociopath with a muslim background for President. A President, by the way, who is at this very moment orchestrating the sharpest decline in American military capability since WWII. Given more time, who knows.

Dude....the Viet Cong defeated America....a defeat by ISIS et al is not impossible. I'm convinced these folks are here in America now...and waiting for the right moment. They already told us what they're going to do. I would argue as long as your pal [BHO] remains in power, the probability of another 9/11 type attack [on a much larger scale] increases markedly.

Soooo will you join me in calling for the impeachment of Barack Hussein Obama, before Abdul blows your sorry arse to........

Have a great day!

This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:34 pm to
Those frickers don't have the balls or brains to do jack.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43745 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:34 pm to
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It's already happening.


Oh, really?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:39 pm to
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Dude....the Viet Cong defeated America




The sad part is this was the sanest part of your rant
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32989 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:51 pm to
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the Viet Cong defeated America..
Come'on man? We were wiping the floor with the VC. The NVA was much more capable but they were supplied by the Soviets and the Chinks. We could have easily won the war if the morons in DC would have let the military "take the gloves off". We didn't "lose" the Vietnam War, we withdrew our troops because of political pressure from the public.
Posted by Matrixman
Texas
Member since Apr 2010
719 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:03 pm to
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The sad part is this was the sanest part of your rant


My friend you deal in the world of fantacy...the way you WANT to see the world. I deal in the world of reality....and the reality is that on 9/11/01 [and with the election of BHO] our country [and the world] changed forever. Go back to your beer and pretzels and video games.

FACT! What we have is a perfect storm. A weak America, and an emboldened radical Islamic movement that sees the future as Islam. Suggest you do this. Check out the birth rate stats among Islamic women as opposed to western women in the industrialized western countries [including the United States].

We'll see who is "sane" or not.

Have a great day!
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24700 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:09 pm to
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and it should be carried out by a coalition of Arab states.


Good luck with that. We train them and they shoot our generals.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:12 pm to
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My friend you deal in the world of fantacy...the way you WANT to see the world. I deal in the world of reality....


Please do explain this a little better. I have spent the better part of two decades in the middle east, Iraq, Saudi, Kuwait, and even Iran before all the sanctions hit. You are a silly asswipe most likely sitting in a trailer eating your foodstamp pizza swilling cheap beer and slapping you fatassed sister on the rear. Thats OK I still pay US taxes so your useless arse can do that. You have absolutely no fricking idea of what you are blabbing about other than what some talking head told you to think but ramble on if you think it is making you look smart.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:24 pm to
I been calling for this for a year or more.

GWB tried to go after and end the terrorist reign all over the world but he was getting so much resistance from behind IT'S TIME WE STOP HEY, WHATS THAT SOUND, EVERYBODY LOOK WHAT'S GOING DOWN.

GWB was right, we should have used Iraq as a base to fight these jihadists until death.

But the dems had to agree to the war, then undermine the war.Along with the left wing media

Instead we walked away and gave them a calaphate state.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:26 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61280 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by Matrixman
Texas
Member since Apr 2010
719 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:32 pm to
We lost the war.....period. I agree our Armed Forces did a great job....but in the end....THE POLITICANS [and Walter Cronkite] LOST THE WAR. That is all history will note.

Reality my friend......reality.

This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37171 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:36 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:38 pm to
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and it should be carried out by a coalition of Arab states.

I like your thinking. If Arabs don't care that ISIS is trying to drag the whole region back to the Dark Ages, why should we care?
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:41 pm to
Wait do people actually think even after all the evidence that ISIS has shown, that somehow ISIS and say Iran get along in any way?
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:44 pm to
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Who would have thought America would elect an enemy of Israel with a muslim background for President?


I mean his fathers' Secretary of State is pretty hated by the Israeli's and he himself is pretty good friends with a lot of Muslims, but still I think this is a bit of stretch when describing W.
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