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re: Israel recalls its ambassadors from U.K. and USA because of un vote
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:51 pm to cave canem
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:51 pm to cave canem
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We have even gotten to the point that questioning Israel is questioning Sky Daddy in some minds. WTF
I really couldn't care less about any Biblical arguments.
Israel is the only democracy in the region.
Muslim countries...those same countries supporting terrorism around the world...refuse to acknowledge their very right to exist with ANY boundaries.
The Saudis are so fricked up, they black out any reference to Israel in western newspapers and magazines. I knew a colleague who was principal at an American high school in Saudi Arabia. They got a shipment of inflatable globes...kind of like beach balls, but world globes. fricking Saudis at customs literally cut Israel out of the globes before releasing the shipment to the school.
Where was all this concern for the Palestinians before Jordan invaded in 1967? Where was the outcry for their independent state then? I'll tell you where it was...about 25 years ago a Palestinian acquaintance of mine told me that as far as the Arab countries in the region were concerned, the Palestinians were the n****rs of the Middle East.
When push comes to shove, the Arab countries don't give a shite about the Palestinianians. They're just pawns to use to weaken the Israelis.
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Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:53 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:Fuk Palestine. They should GTFO of Israel. Move in some other goat humping raghead country.
Israel existing as long as a viable Palestinian state exists too.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:54 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Israel is the only democracy in the region
Why should I give a shite?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:55 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Muslim countries...those same countries supporting terrorism around the world...refuse to acknowledge their very right to exist with ANY boundaries.
Prove it
Please
You have fallen hook line and sinker for the propaganda that the Muslim countries in the middle east are all evil terrorist loving and supporting hell holes while Israel is the innocent perfect angel nation who is just trying to mind it's own business
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Israel is the only democracy in the region
Why should I give a shite?
Just one example...go back and look at what Syria has become under Assad and his dad, then come back and ask that question with a straight face.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:59 pm to goldennugget
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Prove it
Can you not fricking read? I gave you one example. And having lived in SA, I do know a little about this.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:00 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Muslim countries...those same countries supporting terrorism around the world...refuse to acknowledge their very right to exist with ANY boundaries.
This is a half truth at best and I'm as opposed to Islam on a fundamental level as anyone here.
Islam as a political ideology is usually toxic but the Middle East isn't exclusively Islamic hellholes bent on the destruction of Israel. There are multiple relatively secular governments in the Islamic world.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Islam as a political ideology is usually toxic but the Middle East isn't exclusively Islamic hellholes bent on the destruction of Israel.
Tell you what...you name one and then we'll go from there.
Edit: 18 out of the 21 members of the Arab league do not recognize Israel.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:02 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Just one example...go back and look at what Syria has become under Assad and his dad, then come back and ask that question with a straight face.
I'm guessing you thought Iraq was a horrible shite hole under Saddam and the Iraq war was 100% necessary as we needed to do whatever it took to remove him from power
We remove him from power and look at what happens.
Assad is not responsible for ISIS. The US and Israel are for their crappy foreign policy and meddling.
Who cares if Iraq or Syria are countries with brutal dictators. Not our problem. Why should we care. Meddling will only make things worse as the Iraq War proved.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:03 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Can you not fricking read? I gave you one example. And having lived in SA, I do know a little about this.
Cutting Israel out of a globe equals terrorism?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:04 pm to BamaGradinTn
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go back and look at what Syria has become under Assad and his dad, then come back and ask that question with a straight face.
Tyrants ruling under the guise of freedom, nothing new under the sun.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:04 pm to RedRifle
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Israel recalls its ambassadors from U.K. and USA because of un vote
Good. America first
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:05 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Edit: 18 out of the 21 members of the Arab league do not recognize Israel.
So not recognizing Israel equals terroism?
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Tell you what...you name one and then we'll go from there.
Malaysia, Indonesia, UAE, Tunisia, Jordan, Algeria, Turkey amongst others
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Tyrants ruling under the guise of freedom, nothing new under the sun.
Where is all the hand wringing and wailing over the Kim family in North Korea.
Why is it we must topple dictators in the middle east, but not elsewhere?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:08 pm to goldennugget
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I'm guessing you thought Iraq was a horrible shite hole under Saddam and the Iraq war was 100% necessary as we needed to do whatever it took to remove him from power
We remove him from power and look at what happens.
Assad is not responsible for ISIS. The US and Israel are for their crappy foreign policy and meddling.
Who cares if Iraq or Syria are countries with brutal dictators. Not our problem. Why should we care. Meddling will only make things worse as the Iraq War proved.
You're assuming a helluva lot about what I think, and pretty much wrong on all counts. And who the frick said anything about ISIS? Lack of democracy in Syria gives you a dictator propped up by the Soviets in a brutal civil war, driving hundreds of thousands of refugees out, expanding the Soviets' influence in the region. But that's just fine with you, right?
And btw...as far as I'm concerned re: Iraq and US policy, the worst thing to happen was the Iran-Iraq war to end.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:09 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Israel is the only democracy in the region.
Nope.
Easy google search.
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Muslim countries...those same countries supporting terrorism around the world...refuse to acknowledge their very right to exist with ANY boundaries.
False. Egypt and Jordan both have full diplomatic ties to Israel. Most Arab states do not recognize Israel as a legitimate state and have no dip relationship. None are openly hostile to Israel. all have full dip relationships with the US.
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The Saudis are so fricked up,
Only accurate thing you said.
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Where was all this concern for the Palestinians before Jordan invaded in 1967? Where was the outcry for their independent state then? I'll tell you where it was...about 25 years ago a Palestinian acquaintance of mine told me that as far as the Arab countries in the region were concerned, the Palestinians were the n****rs of the Middle East.
False. Palestinians were not ni**ers of the middle east before 67. They certainly were after millions of them were dumped into neighboring countries when Israel forcibly mived them off their lands. currently, lebanon jordan, syria, turkey, and Egypt have massive Palestinian refugee populations, which certainly hasn't made them any more popular in these locations than the masses of European jews were when the swarmed into the arab territory of Palestine in the early 1900s.
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When push comes to shove, the Arab countries don't give a shite about the Palestinianians. They're just pawns to use to weaken the Israelis.
They care that millions of then are sucking the government tit in their countries because there is nowhere else for them to go. they care about the resultant terrorism caused by this situation. Are arabs supposed to csre more about them than the European Jews who displaced them? what kind of stupid fricked up logic is that?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:12 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Tell you what...you name one and then we'll go from there.
Turkey, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, etc.
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Edit: 18 out of the 21 members of the Arab league do not recognize Israel.
Are you equating a lack of recognition with a desire for annihilation?
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:13 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:Isn't Iraq a Democracy?
Israel is the only democracy in the region.
quote:They are people. Human beings. We are talking about what is right for them right now.
When push comes to shove, the Arab countries don't give a shite about the Palestinianians. They're just pawns to use to weaken the Israelis.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:13 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Lack of democracy in Syria gives you a dictator propped up by the Soviets in a brutal civil war, driving hundreds of thousands of refugees out, expanding the Soviets' influence in the region. But that's just fine with you, right?
I could care less about dictators or civil wars in other countries. It's not our business. Who cares? Let those countries figure it out. Same with Russian influence in the middle east. Who cares. Middle East isn't our problem.
If dictators are so bad where is the outcry to use military force to topple the Kim family in North Korea. There is none, you know why? Because we don't have lobbyists writing big checks to politicians to lobby for military intervention in North Korea like we do lobbyists lobbying for military intervention in the middle east.
Like I said earlier in the thread... follow the money.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 10:15 pm to BamaGradinTn
wow you went from "knowing" someone who lived in Saudi to having lived there yourself in the span of one post, impressive.
You are full of shite, Israel is mentioned in the newspaper nearly every single day.
today's front page has 3 articles alone https://www.arabnews.com/
I hate fricking liars
Edit to add cartoon for a laugh
You are full of shite, Israel is mentioned in the newspaper nearly every single day.
today's front page has 3 articles alone https://www.arabnews.com/
I hate fricking liars
Edit to add cartoon for a laugh
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 10:19 pm
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