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re: Israel: 25% increase in cardiac arrests & heart attacks (16-29). 83.6% in women (20-29)
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:56 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:56 am to theunknownknight
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Where’s the raw data?
The board vaccine sales force don't even provide a link of anything much less any actual linked data to support their sales talk.
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:11 am to lsupride87
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Also, this board should remember how low the cardiac events were in 2020. Threads were constant with "where have all the heart attack deaths gone?"
They probably tested positive for covid and the data was skewed by registering it as a covid death.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:21 am to imjustafatkid
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Did you think this was a good point?
If only 4 people get heart disease in the first year and then 5 get it the next year that's a "25% increase" even though only 1 person more got heart disease.
If 40 people between 18-29 got heart disease in 2019 and then 50 in 2020 that's a "25% increase" as well out of 8.7 million people living in Israel where the median age hovers around 30.
That data seems to show less than 100 people had heart disease in the 18-29 demo.
It's funny how the same fear tactics a lot of anti-vaxxers hate from the pro-vax crowd are being used to scare people from taking the vaccine. Exact same overexaggerations and fear porn.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:58 am to tiggerthetooth
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It's funny how the same fear tactics a lot of anti-vaxxers hate from the pro-vax crowd are being used to scare people from taking the vaccine. Exact same overexaggerations and fear porn.
It's really not funny. Anybody can pick and choose the stats that fit your views. The major issue is most of the Pro-vax information is from government agencies.
Just look at CDC. The last 2 studies were pretty much cherry picked to fit their narrative.
1. Provincetown, MA - let's go to a very promiscuous event and measure the virus spread. Not only that but you data from an amateur statistician. You would have gotten same results in Panama City during spring break. Also they with held the study until the reporters screwed up and pressed them on it.
2. Kentucky - study to discredit Rand Paul. They studied hundreds of people in Kentucky. Not thousands, not 10s of thousands, but hundreds to determine that vaccines are better than natural. I could not find it, but best I can tell CDC won't even tell us the town.
Pretty sorry that the government would do this. At least the data in this thread was transparent enough to determine it was probably not a good stat. If the pro-vaxer or government would do this, they probably would have better success. They put most of their effort into hiding the numbers.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:11 am to bayoudude
That's one thing the vaccine was ment to do more harm than good = population control
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:01 am to bayoudude
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The truth will come out. This untested vaccine will do more harm than good in the long run.
Im glad to do my part. Im in the control group. If it weren't for people like me all the vaccinated people wouldn't know how "good" they have it.
lol
Just wait for 3-4 years from now when the combined effects of the shot are realized. In addition to the control that the government has due to covid19, they will be able to push for single payer healthcare when the insurance companies are overwhelmed by millions of people with heart, lung, and blood disorders. Insurance companies would fold from the claims.
But the governments money printer will just keep printing. Printing until we are like the socialist utopia of Venezuela.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:05 am to imjustafatkid
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Did you think this was a good point?
It’s not a bad one actually. when these types of scary percentages are thrown around it’s useful to consider the baseline. The media tried to do this with straight people and aids in the early 90s because they wanted to break the idea that aids was a gay disease. So you got a lot of “hiv is up 400% in straight people!” headlines and then you’d look into it and see that it had gone from 20 cases to 80. It’s also just fear porn to get views. The media is disgusting
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