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Is Voting A Form Of Violence?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:29 pm
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When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force my friends is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.
- Jean Rasczak
Does it strike anyone else as weird that we disenchranise felons but we're okay with all of our law-abiding neighbors exerting force with regards to how we should live?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:33 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Yeah, we should have someone that by default makes all decisions for us without any input from my “law abiding neighbors” or myself. That way we aren’t being “violent” against one another.
For fricks sake…
For fricks sake…
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:33 pm to upgrayedd
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Who?
Don't even start.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:34 pm to UndercoverBryologist
It’s not illogical argument and the reason we were founded as a Republic and not a democracy.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:35 pm to BigJman
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Yeah, we should have someone that by default makes all decisions for us without any input from my “law abiding neighbors” or myself. That way we aren’t being “violent” against one another.
Can the role that government plays in organizing society be replaced by some form of anarchy implementing voluntary transactions?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:37 pm to Antonio Moss
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It’s not illogical argument and the reason we were founded as a Republic and not a democracy.
I hear this said a lot, but I think people are misuing the term "Republic" when they mean "representative democracy."
Republic refers to a government in which the Head of State is non-hereditary. That doesn't preclude a democratic form of government.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:38 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Republic refers to a government in which the Head of State is non-hereditary. That doesn't preclude a democratic form of government.
False
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:40 pm to Antonio Moss
I'll cite the Merriam-Webster definition.
What's your source for your definition?
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a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president
What's your source for your definition?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:40 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Mass voting is a consent ritual.
It's a ritual of submission to whoever runs the state.
Psychologically, you're surrending your autonomy, and agreeing to obey the rules that imposed on you from above.
It's a ritual of submission to whoever runs the state.
Psychologically, you're surrending your autonomy, and agreeing to obey the rules that imposed on you from above.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:42 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Voting could be a form of violence, but it is a lot less violent and bloody form than the communist coups we've seen in the past.
On second thought, that quote is just fricking stupid.
On second thought, that quote is just fricking stupid.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:43 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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What's your source for your definition?
The Romans who first utilized it.
Res Publica = the public thing
Republics are systems of government where the law (the public thing) holds higher priority than the whims of any individual or collection of people (even a majority).
Republics have little do with who holds the executive power and everything to do with how the law is applied to everyone within its jurisdiction.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:44 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Can the role that government plays in organizing society be replaced by some form of anarchy implementing voluntary transactions?
Sure, CHAZ did it perfectly in Seattle just last year.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:44 pm to Antonio Moss
Does that definition preclude a direct democracy?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:45 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Can the role that government plays in organizing society be replaced by some form of anarchy implementing voluntary transactions?
No. Could you provide a successful example of this?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:46 pm to BigJman
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No. Could you provide a successful example of this?
Not to sound too "No True Scotsman" but has it ever been attempted?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Voting is useless.
If it made a difference, we wouldn’t be allowed to do it.
If it made a difference, we wouldn’t be allowed to do it.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Call it what you want.. Im still going to vote.. Well, depending on my opinions. Either way, have the right to make whatever decision I want.. And if me going vote is considered violent then I guess I am a violent mother fricker.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:48 pm to UndercoverBryologist
If you think about it, Majority Rule is simply, my 51 people can beat up your 49 people so we really don’t care what you think.
Might makes right.
Might makes right.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:51 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Does that definition preclude a direct democracy
Yes.
Republics are not subject to whims of the majority (direct democracy). There are legal protections in place to protect citizens (like Constitutional rights).
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