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re: Is Trump responsible for the rise of redflag laws?

Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:32 pm to
Holy lack of link Batman
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:38 pm to
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shall not be infringed (by the federal government") pretty simple


For some one claiming to be a constitutionalist, you seem to leave out the part where "the people" in the 2A are the same in the 1st, 4th and 10th. By saying the 2A only protects from Federal government, you're implying those Amendments don't apply to the states and therefore the freedom of religion, press, peaceful protest, free speech, right to arms and the right to be free from unlawful search and seizures can be infringed on by the states.


Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:38 pm to
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i support states regulating firearms as they see fit. which is consistent with a historical interpretation of the constitution.. "...shall not be infringed (by the federal government") pretty simple
so you believe each state gets to interpret the bill of rights as they see fit? You do think each state can interpret free speech??
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
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For some one claiming to be a constitutionalist, you seem to leave out the part where "the people" in the 2A are the same in the 1st, 4th and 10th. By saying the 2A only protects from Federal government, you're implying those Amendments don't apply to the states and therefore the freedom of religion, press, peaceful protest, free speech, right to arms and the right to be free from unlawful search and seizures can be infringed on by the states.



regulation by a state != infringing on your 2nd amendment right. it's perfectly constitutional for them to tell you where, how, and for what purposes you can bear those arms.

the 2nd amendment wasn't even incorporated against the states until 2010
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:31 pm to
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Holy lack of link Batman



or you could quit being so fricking lazy
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Is Trump responsible for the rise of redflag laws?
Is it bad? Because if it is bad then it is Trump's fault.

Signed, the Left
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:48 pm to
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Which ones are these?


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Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:55 pm to
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i support states regulating firearms as they see fit. which is consistent with a historical interpretation of the constitution.. "...shall not be infringed (by the federal government") pretty simple



An ignorant and wholly incorrect interpretation but typical of those with a low-IQ coupled with poor education.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:27 pm to
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An ignorant and wholly incorrect interpretation but typical of those with a low-IQ coupled with poor education.


r/iamverysmart
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:37 pm to
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bmy troll
you have ignored my question, so I will ask again, you said:
quote:


i support states regulating firearms as they see fit. which is consistent with a historical interpretation of the constitution.. "...shall not be infringed (by the federal government") pretty simple
and I asked
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so you believe each state gets to interpret the bill of rights as they see fit? You do think each state can interpret free speech??


Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:15 pm to
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so you believe each state gets to interpret the bill of rights as they see fit? You do think each state can interpret free speech??


Originally, (1833 Barron v. Baltimore) the USSC unanimously decided that states were not bound by the bill of rights. It wasn't until right and left wing activist judges began to meddle that federalism died.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"
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