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Is the Swamp primarily a Dim/NWO Globalist organization?

Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:36 pm
There was a time when I believed the Swamp was comprised of politicians who were just bought and paid for corporate shills but since Trump came on the scene I’ve changed my mind. My observations over the past several years has convinced me the politicians who seem to thrive in the Swamp are devout leftist NWO/Globalists.

I’m not saying some Republicans aren’t Globalist Swampers too because we know they are by evidence of their voting records but currently I believe the Swamp is primarily a Prog/Dim environment. There’s no debating the overt politicization of the FBI/DOJ/IRS/CIA/NSA etc. by the Obama administration. I’m sure the Dims are proud and thankful for the leftist politicization of the various federal bureaucracies because it’s allowed them the ability to attack the POTUS incessantly with little blowback.

Now add in the Dim infested MSM, academia, and Hollywood/pop culture and it’s a wonder the country isn’t already a complete socialist shite hole like Europe.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:40 pm to
As a dirt farmer buddy of mine says, “them Democrats and Republicans are both crooked, them Democrats are just ‘crookeder.”
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:41 pm to
My opinion.

More Democrats than Republicans, but the total number of corrupt politicians that ought to be dealt with is quite high and there are quite a large number of Republicans that are overtly corrupt as well.

NWO? Nah. They're more like the Old World Order. These same banking families have been running the show for a long damn time. The swamp is nothing new.

And yes, they're globalists. Why wouldn't they be? We have a global economy. They have no allegiance to any nation.
Posted by bamacoullion
Fayette, Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
1770 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:44 pm to
My question is what do the Demoncrats stand to gain? And also, how did they get persuaded to adopt it in the first place?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45986 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:49 pm to
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zation? by bamacoullion
My question is what do the Demoncrats stand to gain? And also, how did they get persuaded to adopt it in the first place?


I believe if the NWO has a base ideology it’s socialism.....they want to control the masses by being the source of our sustenance.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

My question is what do the Demoncrats stand to gain?


1) a lot of money.
2) the thrill that comes with having a lot of money and being held above the law.

I'd say that about covers the motives of every megalomaniacal dick bag.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:54 pm to
What makes the swamp hard to drain are the unelected folks who know how to manipulate their pieces.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:58 pm to
If you consider that Bush and Clinton are on the same team (they were running drugs together while Clinton was governor here in Arkansas), once these frickers absorbed Obama into their ranks (wasn't hard I'm sure. Foreign born, transvestite wife, communist...kompromat) their team has been making things like judicial appointments and other technocratic appointments since Reagan was president. And maybe even before.

The layers of protection these people have have to be damn near unimaginable. So far, Trump is doing a masterful job at unraveling it all.

He's gonna get the job done.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:59 pm to
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As a dirt farmer buddy of mine says, “them Democrats and Republicans are both crooked, them Democrats are just ‘crookeder.”

Seems pretty spot on to me. What I perceive is that they both have discovered all sorts of ways to enrich themselves. Not saying 100% of both sides participate in such activities, but probably a near equal amount of each side at any given time. And it's a wink and a nod thing amongst those on both sides that engage in enrichment activities.

But the difference? Dems are seemingly more astute at employing efforts to keep the status quo available in the future (and doggedly so), while Repubs seem to be more timid about it and live more in the moment.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:01 pm to
I would say that exposing the college admissions scandal may be one of the greatest things that has happened during the Trump presidency.

We have to deconstruct the social caste system that has developed in this country. It's at least partially responsible for "the swamp."
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:23 pm to
You have confused about 3-4 different groups and swirled them all up in a buzzword soup.

The levels of power are:

1. The globalist corporate elite. These are the billionaires and multimillionaires that attempt to control the entirety of the world for their own benefit. They are, for all intents and purposes, completely above the law. The vast majority ascribe to no one specific ideology, they want every government (democratic, socialist, corporatist, theocratic) to serve their financial interests and they are very successful at doing so.

2. The global political elite - the servants and whores of #1. Many of them claim to represent certain ideologies but their actions always benefit the same people. Senators are obviously the most corrupt. The House has a low threshold for ideologues (maybe 33%) but nearly all can be counted to line up behind whatever they are told. State legislators are your garden variety thieves or obnoxious dumbasses with too much money and too many opinions. Never trust anyone who has made a career of "public service" - they are robbing us blind.

3. The "Deep State"/Administrative State - the hounds of #1. The former refers specifically to the intelligence/defense beaurocratic apparatus, with the latter being the entirety of the government leviathan. This is the nest of ideologues (heavily protected by unions) and the most dangerous group by far. They are nameless, faceless. They can target anyone in the country with full the backing of the DOJ and US military and there is zero external oversight over their decisions.

4. The global media elite - playing pretend, just like #2. The only power they have is making you get mad at the tee-vee.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6458 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:53 pm to
It seems like most of the democrats think they have the right to rule over us little people. Many republicans fit this mold too (the Bushes being the primary example), but there are still a lot of republicans that are just whores to the corporations and the elite. They are in it more for the money than a belief that we the people just need them to rule us for our own benefit.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48842 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:53 am to
International High Finance cabal is the power structure
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:54 am to
It is easier to control the money with one currency and one government.

The people at the top of the food chain do not care as they profit from this.

The sheep follow as they are too stupid and brainwashed to think on their own. Twenty years from now will people understand what freedom is?
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 5:55 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:27 am to
It's not a Dem or Rep thing bc the meanings have changed so much so fast. It's us against them; us are the 99.9%.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:45 am to
Plenty of RINO’s in the swamp
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:09 am to
quote:

More Democrats than Republicans, but the total number of corrupt politicians that ought to be dealt with is quite high and there are quite a large number of Republicans that are overtly corrupt as well.

NWO? Nah. They're more like the Old World Order. These same banking families have been running the show for a long damn time. The swamp is nothing new.

And yes, they're globalists. Why wouldn't they be? We have a global economy. They have no allegiance to any nation.


Good take. Makes sense.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:14 am to
quote:

I believe if the NWO has a base ideology it’s socialism.....they want to control the masses by being the source of our sustenance.


I agree. My only additional comments are that: 1) I'd call it more of an "International" socialism; 2) one important motive for their Internationalist Socialist agenda is to minimize the risk of another massively destructive world war, because of the economic dislocation that such an event would cause. Dislocation triggers desperation, which may trigger violent revolution. The Rulers don't want the masses with pitchforks crashing through the Gates of the Estate with murderous intent.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15396 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:48 am to
Every member of the Swamp is Uniparty. There are R members and D members of the Uniparty. (They’re sorta like offense and defense on the same Football Team).

The Swamp is Uniparty, and the entire Uniparty is Globalist. From Paul Ryan to Hillary Clinton.

The only difference btwn a RINO and a Democrat is the occasional speech disclaiming abortion, and their position on taxes of businesses. (Not that RINOs actually GAF about Abortion, or any other issue that their base actually cares about. They just pay lip service to it. That’s why they are RINOs).

The Democrats are way scarier as a group to me. Globalists of any stripe freak me the frick out. However, non Uniparty D members are fricking insane SJWs, who are both Globalist AND Socialist. That’s a recipe for the diminution or the values and rules that made our country great: namely, INDIVIDUAL liberties. Marxists and Globalists DGAF about individuals.

The D faction of the Uniparty runs every bureaucracy except the intelligence community, and is led by the Clintons, with the Obamas giving it a facelift. But make no mistake, HRC runs that shite. The R faction runs the IC, and is led by the Bushes.

The End
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Every member of the Swamp is Uniparty. There are R members and D members of the Uniparty. (They’re sorta like offense and defense on the same Football Team).

The Swamp is Uniparty, and the entire Uniparty is Globalist. From Paul Ryan to Hillary Clinton.

The only difference btwn a RINO and a Democrat is the occasional speech disclaiming abortion, and their position on taxes of businesses. (Not that RINOs actually GAF about Abortion, or any other issue that their base actually cares about. They just pay lip service to it. That’s why they are RINOs).

The Democrats are way scarier as a group to me. Globalists of any stripe freak me the frick out. However, non Uniparty D members are fricking insane SJWs, who are both Globalist AND Socialist. That’s a recipe for the diminution or the values and rules that made our country great: namely, INDIVIDUAL liberties. Marxists and Globalists DGAF about individuals.

The D faction of the Uniparty runs every bureaucracy except the intelligence community, and is led by the Clintons, with the Obamas giving it a facelift. But make no mistake, HRC runs that shite. The R faction runs the IC, and is led by the Bushes.

The End



GREAT post.

Only additional comment from me: I wonder if the Democrats have taken control of the IC away from the "Bush GOP".
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