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Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:43 pm to GAAtty70
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I have been told multiple times on this board that moderates are spineless people who believe in nothing and cause damage to our society by failing to take a stand.
This is something intellectually weak people say when they can't tell you why you should think as they think. Anyone who fully agrees with their party is a liar, an idiot, or both.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:44 pm to SCLibertarian
The War on Terror destroyed this country. That's interesting.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:45 pm to GAAtty70
Bipartisanship basically means uncontrollable govt spending so yeah I’d say that is bad.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:52 pm to GAAtty70
Massive evil brought on my liberals/feminism is what's bad for this country
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:56 pm to SCLibertarian
Last time in the last 60 years we had a balanced budget was with a Republican Congress and Democrat President.
Bipartisan works when it is a real bipartisan bill. Bills that are passed with bipartisan support don’t get press or we rarely know about.
A few examples in 2018:
Criminal Justice Bill
Farm Bill
SNAP Bill
2 Bills that involved Virtual Currency
Bipartisan works when it is a real bipartisan bill. Bills that are passed with bipartisan support don’t get press or we rarely know about.
A few examples in 2018:
Criminal Justice Bill
Farm Bill
SNAP Bill
2 Bills that involved Virtual Currency
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:57 pm to TOKEN
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That’s not even debatable
You're under the belief that the Dems didn't know what they were voting for OR that Reps are more hawkish than Dems.......my take is that neither one of these are true.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:57 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:That is one hell of an ignorant post. Bipartisanship in and of itself didn't give us any of those things. The fact that neither side is willing to give up anything for the good of the whole is the problem.
Bipartisanship gets us:
-War on Terror
-Patriot Act
-Deficits
-Iraq War
-FISA
-NSA spying
-Corporate bailouts
Bipartisanship has destroyed this country.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 12:59 pm to texridder
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The fact that neither side is willing to give up anything for the good of the whole is the problem.
At least, a huge part of it. I agree
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:02 pm to texridder
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The fact that neither side is willing to give up anything for the good of the whole is the problem.
Well, considering the Left have almost to a man become absolutely, batzhit crazy and violent, well forgive us if we aren't in a compromising mood.
You see, the faithful implementation of Leftist ideas leads to a future that resembles either Mad Max, 1984 or Harrison Bergeron.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:02 pm to GAAtty70
If bipartisanship means having any association with liberals at all I am firmly against it. They are a bunch of creepy worthless fricks and I have no wish or intention of having anything to do with them.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:04 pm to GAAtty70
Unfortunately bipartisan compromise today just means the Republicans will give up more than they should and the Democrats will just come for the rest later
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:07 pm to texridder
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The fact that neither side is willing to give up anything for the good of the whole is the problem.
What is something you feel strongly about for which you are willing to meet the “other side” on half way?
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:20 pm to FredBear
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They are a bunch of creepy worthless fricks
That isn't a description that's unique to liberals.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:23 pm to texridder
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Bipartisanship in and of itself didn't give us any of those things.
There are fundamental orthodoxies in this country that both parties support regardless of who's in power. Permanent war, deficits and the surveillance state are 3 of those things. It's why establishment Republicans supported Obama's Libyan War and his desire for war in Syria. It's why establishment Dems supported the Iraq War and voted for the Patriot Act. It's why we're $20 trillion in debt. The idea that we're so polarized in this country is largely a façade. The people might be, but the politicians aren't.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:28 pm to GAAtty70
The first two years of Obama and Trump didn’t need to have bipartisan support.
First two years of Obama brought in the Tea Party. First two years of Trump caused the Dems to go more to the left.
What was different in Trumps first two years compared to Obama was legislation. Republicans in Congress couldn’t along and only got one major bill passed. It had little to do with bipartisan support, but Republicans fighting each other.
We may dislike Obama and his policies, but he was able to pass more major legislation and pass more bills in his first two years. The reason was because Democrats had less infighting than the GOP.
4 of the last 10 years Congress and the President didn’t need bipartisan support.
First two years of Obama brought in the Tea Party. First two years of Trump caused the Dems to go more to the left.
What was different in Trumps first two years compared to Obama was legislation. Republicans in Congress couldn’t along and only got one major bill passed. It had little to do with bipartisan support, but Republicans fighting each other.
We may dislike Obama and his policies, but he was able to pass more major legislation and pass more bills in his first two years. The reason was because Democrats had less infighting than the GOP.
4 of the last 10 years Congress and the President didn’t need bipartisan support.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:51 pm to SCLibertarian
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Permanent war
Support.
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:54 pm to Wtodd
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Don't exist any longer.....on either side
I agree, but will add... I think they're are people who have both liberal and conservative ideas, but are not bipartisan about any of them (won't budge).
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:58 pm to oogabooga68
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You see, the faithful implementation of Leftist ideas leads to a future that resembles either Mad Max, 1984 or Harrison Bergeron.
Given that an authoritarian personality dominates the Right-leaning voter's choice of leadership, one would assume that faithful implementation of Rightist ideas would lead to a future of an authoritarian government.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:58 pm to GAAtty70
I've got some shite I'm conservative about, I've got some shite I'm liberal about. Am I a spineless moderate?
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