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Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:09 am to Fun Bunch
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I didn't want to start a thread about it, but here is Tucker outright lying about Churchill "jailing" the "Opposition Party" and praising Oswald Mosley. Mosley was not elected to anything, was the head of the "British Union of Fascists", and literally had his wedding at Goebbels house with Hitler in attendance
Someone that can blatantly lie about factual historical events like that? Their opinions on anything shouldn’t be given the time of day. Used to love Tucker, dude sold out his integrity for clicks
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:18 am to Fun Bunch
In WWII we had Tokyo Rose. In 2026 we have Tehran Tuck.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:18 am to Fun Bunch
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Mosley was not elected to anything, was the head of the "British Union of Fascists"
He was an MP for the better part of 2 decades under both the Tory Party and the Labour Party before becoming a true fascist. He was also from a prominent aristocratic family in Staffordshire that went back to the early 17th century, prior to the English Civil War. He was considered to be serious political opposition and extremely dangerous to the ruling class, given his aristocratic background, charisma and appeal to the working class. Had Mosley's brand of fascism modeled what you saw in Spain or Austria instead of the Nazis, he would have likely been a true threat. However, the visceral antisemitism of his brand of fascism was not as appealing in Britain as it was on the continent.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:26 am to Fun Bunch
There are people on this very website that will gleefully deep throat old Tucker for his gay opinions. It's hard to fathom.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:29 am to Fun Bunch
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Is he just nuts? Was he always nuts?
No. Y'all are nuts. He just gets rich off of it.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:29 am to SCLibertarian
He was LONG out of office by the time period that Tucker is referring to, and was not a member of any actual "Opposition Party".
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:32 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Exactly. I’m typically very isolationist in my leanings. But no one from the anti war perspective has been able to give me a decent answer as to why we should tolerate Iran enriching uranium. They are already at 60%. Probably enough for a dirty bomb and well beyond anything applicable for civilian purposes.
Actually, no. Everyone should judge anything based on its individual merits. Sometimes war is necessary
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:37 am to Fun Bunch
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Why not?
You brought in the moral framework, so on that front, mine is shaped by the church. From my perspective and from basically all Catholic commentary I have seen on the matter, save Michael Knowles, this doesn't come close to checking the six boxes of just war theory.
We bombed them proactively because Israel said they were going in. This automatically negates the just cause.
Proportionality seems to be going out the window with Israel bombing oil fields. We also have the school bombing incident.
This wasn't a last resort as negotiations were still on going between the US and Iran.
Legitimate Authority will be in question the second boots hit the ground without approval, I think pretty much every administration in recent memory has overstepped the boundaries of their legitimate authority with the use of the military. That has sort of created a lot of this mess in the middle east.
Right intention is one that I can't answer and only the administration can answer for.
Reasonable hope for success is the one clear check mark as we can squash Iran like a bug if we want.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:37 am to wdhalgren
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Tehran Tuck
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:40 am to msutiger
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We bombed them proactively because Israel said they were going in.
So this is false, but ok
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This wasn't a last resort as negotiations were still on going between the US and Iran.
Negotiations in which Iran started with the position that they had enough material for 11 nuclear warheads
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:42 am to Fun Bunch
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Negotiations in which Iran started with the position that they had enough material for 11 nuclear warheads
and they would not surrender diplomatically that which we could not take militarily
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:42 am to Fun Bunch
Marco said that, then the backpedals began.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:43 am to Bunk Moreland
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Marco said that,
It wasn't him who said it was Witkoff
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:44 am to Fun Bunch
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So this is false, but ok
Here are Rubio's exact words:
“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties,” he said.
“We went proactively in a defensive way to prevent them from inflicting higher damage,” Rubio said.
This is proactive bombing, therefor this automatically does not fulfill just war criteria. Just war requires every box to be checked, not one.
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Negotiations in which Iran started with the position that they had enough material for 11 nuclear warheads
Yet when people pushed back against the initial bombing of Iran last year, we were told it was necessary and worth it because we completely destroyed their nuclear capabilities. So you'll have to excuse my skepticism on the Iran nuclear capability argument
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
Sorry, I meant the part about us going in with Israel because they were going to Leroy Jenkins, which would get us hit, anyway.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:45 am to msutiger
I know what he said. You didn't watch the entire clip within context and then took those words out of context to fit your agenda.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:47 am to Fun Bunch
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I know what he said. You didn't watch the entire clip within context and then took those words out of context to fit your agenda.
Then quote me, in his words not yours, the context that I am excluding.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 10:57 am to wdhalgren
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In 2026 we have Tehran Tuck.
Nickname brought to you by Masada Mark Levin
Posted on 3/20/26 at 11:00 am to SCLibertarian
Are you just going to assume everyone who recognizes Tucker's bought and paid for dishonesty must listen to the smarmy Levin? Seems like a pussified cop out.
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