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re: In shocking news, Lisa Murkowski just announced she will not support the SAVE ACT

Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:44 pm to
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The big government republicans you vote for want illegal immigration just as much.


Let me guess, you think all of this ICE stuff is fake. Absurd.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:38 pm to
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Let me guess, you think all of this ICE stuff is fake. Absurd.


Oh look who's accusing me of stupid bullshite again.

I'm just gonna start ignoring you.


Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41729 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Oh look who's accusing me of stupid bullshite again.



Don't make dumb posts if you don't want to be called out for dumb posts.

You made the stupid BS post claiming republicans "want illegal immigration just as much."

The current ICE proves this wrong.

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I'm just gonna start ignoring you.


Running from a thread is normal for you.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:56 pm to
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Don't make dumb posts if you don't want to be called out for dumb posts.

You made the stupid BS post claiming republicans "want illegal immigration just as much."

The current ICE proves this wrong.



If only they had voting records.

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Running from a thread is normal for you.


I'm literally known for the opposite of this you fricking retard. I just end up ignoring people I can't take seriously. For multiple days now you've been melting and just accusing me of random shite while pretending you are making real arguments.

This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41729 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:07 pm to
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If only they had voting records.



Who is leading the fight against ICE? Liberals or Republicans?

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I'm literally known for the opposite of this you fricking retard. I just end up ignoring people I can't take seriously. For multiple days now you've been melting and just accusing me of random shite while pretending you are making real arguments.



In response to me saying

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"The left is a far bigger threat to your ideas"


You responded with.....

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"You are the threat because you use stupid excuses like this to destroy liberty and limited government."


Thats extreme deflection. That is a blatant disregard of the dangers presented by the left. You are complicit. You enable them.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Who is leading the fight against ICE? Liberals or Republicans?


Maybe you should ask how they all got here in the first place, and that maybe part of the goal was to increase the police state in response.

It's how things work, you introduce a problem to the country so that you can give them a previously prepared agenda that the citizens will give up their freedoms for.

And people like you who buy into the left vs right paradigm are the idiots who fuel it. I do not give a frick what letter someone puts next to their name, I give a frick about what they vote for and what their philosophy is. The fact you frame everything in that manner means you're a fricking dumbass.

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Thats extreme deflection. That is a blatant disregard of the dangers presented by the left. You are complicit. You enable them.


This is what you see because you're a dumbass who only sees things in binary. Again, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously, especially after the way you sucked the covid mandates 6 years ago.

You've never once seen me be complementary of the left. I'm not going to sit here and reply to whatever bullshite accusations you make.

You are clearly someone who accepts whatever narratives and then looks for government to fix it. You're a propagandists wet dream. Since you are clearly unable to think for yourself, having any type of discussion with you is a waste of time.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 2:20 pm
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:31 pm to
I don't really understand what is going on. I have people telling me in this thread that to force you to show your ID to vote in a FEDERAL election is "federalizing elections"?????????????????????????????

And it tells states not to process FEDERAL voter ID registrations unless a valid US id is provided.



What the hell are you morons (and moonbats like Murkowski) talking about?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:42 pm to
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I don't really understand what is going on. I have people telling me in this thread that to force you to show your ID to vote in a FEDERAL election is "federalizing elections"?????????????????????????????

And it tells states not to process FEDERAL voter ID registrations unless a valid US id is provided.

What the hell are you morons (and moonbats like Murkowski) talking about?


There are multiple levels of government from federal, to state to local. So it's a matter of where an issue like this is best handled at. Voter ID should be a thing in all 50 states, and illegals shouldn't be here to begin with, much less be allowed to vote.

But the problem with doing things on a federal level is that you allow them to do so in both ways. Right now for example in Florida we have great voter ID laws. But what if you allow the federal government to decide in this way and the next congress comes along and says - nobody can require an ID? And then as a resident of Florida, I end up getting fricked because my state wasn't fricked up already. At least I get good state laws here now, the majority of the issues don't affect me as a result.

So it's a tough one because the given intent is correct, but that doesn't necessarily mean the federal government is the best place for it. The power you give to Trump is the same power you give to someone like Biden.

Personally think we should get them out of the country completely overall. Can't vote in the elections if you aren't here illegally.
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