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In Hindsight - seeing how insidious the deep state is - I'm sympathetic to 911 truthers

Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:48 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57320 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:48 am
Look at what's happening out in the open right now and revisit some of the older conspiracy theories.

Would you put it last THIS government of socialist loons to kill Americans in order to push a perpetual spying program on the populace?

Posted by kemm1
Over here
Member since Jun 2005
694 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:58 am to
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Look at what's happening out in the open right now and revisit some of the older conspiracy theories.

Would you put it last THIS government of socialist loons to kill Americans in order to push a perpetual spying program on the populace?



Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:01 am to
Oh lawd.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108438 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:06 am to
Our government incompetence has been completely exposed thanks to this. I don’t see how anyone can’t be a libertarian after this, because the underlying thesis of libertarianism has been conclusively proven: the government sucks at everything. The states that were the least restrictive have done the best.

So no, this makes me ridicule 9/11 conspiracy theorists even more. If they fricked this up that bad, how am I supposed to believe that hundreds of people could keep this silent? The only 9/11 conspiracy theory I think is plausible is United 93 was shot down, because I don’t see why more than 20 people would have to know about that part. Just the people in the room with Bush on Air Force One, Cheney, the general Bush gave the order to, and the two fighter pilots that shot it down... well and I guess that widow. That story always seemed off to me because I remember as a kid trying to make phone calls off of planes and never getting close... but that’s fricked up if Bush told that widow to lie for the sake of her country.
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Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22800 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:33 am to
I think if the 9/11 situation was really a complete false flag you would have seen it be ridiculously exposed by now. That is too big of a lie with a ton of people being murdered. Also democrats would have burned the Republican Party to the ground to seize power from it.

This coup attempt is obvious and so is the democrat infiltration and distribution of misinformation/propaganda through the large media organizations.
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:41 am to
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think if the 9/11 situation was really a complete false flag you would have seen it be ridiculously exposed by now. That is too big of a lie with a ton of people being murdered. Also democrats would have burned the Republican Party to the ground to seize power from it.


I completely agree. It’s not because I think the government is noble that they would never do something like that, it’s that I think the government could never successfully control the amount of information necessary to execute 9/11 falsely. Just doesn’t seem possible. The executive branch of a savvy and corrupt administration couldn’t keep an old cum stained dress hidden.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53391 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:53 am to
There is one thread holding the official story together IMO and that is the phone calls. If it was a false flag, how do you explain those? The only thing I can come up with is the perhaps the "hijackers" thought they were running some type of drills for their handlers and they got double crossed (remote control?).
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:08 pm to
I'm not. They're sick people
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3184 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:58 pm to
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I completely agree. It’s not because I think the government is noble that they would never do something like that, it’s that I think the government could never successfully control the amount of information nece


But...... In 1969, the government snowballed an entire country by televising on “live TV” a moon landing.

This.... at a time when there were only 4 TV stations (ABC, NBC, CBS, & PBS) & everyone used rabbit ears on top of their TV’s in order to access a signal that had snow a lot of the time.

They broadcast a live feed of men landing on the moon 285,000 miles away at a time when satellite TV was not even invented yet.

Everyone watched breathlessly on live TV at 9:56 pm cst when Neal Armstrong put his left foot on the moon’s surface.

And..... the TV camera angle televising the “first steps” were filmed from the moons surface.

Everyone still buys this even today. You are considered a quack if you have any doubts.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:09 pm to
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I completely agree. It’s not because I think the government is noble that they would never do something like that, it’s that I think the government could never successfully control the amount of information necessary to execute 9/11 falsely. Just doesn’t seem possible. The executive branch of a savvy and corrupt administration couldn’t keep an old cum stained dress hidden.


The government doesn't have to do it, CIA and black ops can pull it off like they have pulled off many things in the past
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:22 pm to
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There is one thread holding the official story together IMO and that is the phone calls. If it was a false flag, how do you explain those? The only thing I can come up with is the perhaps the "hijackers" thought they were running some type of drills for their handlers and they got double crossed (remote control?).


Multiple people have said the phone calls came from offsite and were staged by handlers. They bring up that the background noise was not normal for being on a plane. A lof of other contradictions involving the phone calls.
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:01 pm to
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the real explanation (see Ryan Dawson).. hint: it's the same interests behind both.


Never heard of him, a quick Google search tells me he blames the Jews for everything.

That is a fresh take.

I believe 9/11 happened exactly the way it played out on TV. The only "conspiracy" is the incompetence of our intelligence agencies to not stop it, and the fact that it was funded by the Saudi Royal family (not necessarily the ones in power, there are 5000 members) and the US struck a deal to cover that up.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59962 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:04 pm to
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I think if the 9/11 situation was really a complete false flag you would have seen it be ridiculously exposed by now. That is too big of a lie with a ton of people being murdered. Also democrats would have burned the Republican Party to the ground to seize power from it.


Your premise assumes that everyone involved with an alleged conspiracy to pull off a FF of that magnitude doesn't stand to gain equally by taking knowledge that they might have to the grave.

I'm not saying I'm in the 9/11 Was an Inside Job™ truther, but they have some compelling insights that seem infinitely more credible in the face of what we know DS elements of our shadow government is willing to do to maintain power.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59962 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:07 pm to
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I think the government could never successfully control the amount of information necessary to execute 9/11 falsely. Just doesn’t seem possible.


I agree with those who believe you don't need everyone in the government to do it, just a select group of CIA operatives to put the pieces in motion with Saudi patsies who want the express lane to their 72 virgins.
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