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re: In depth ex navy analysis of the Venezuela drug boat sinkings

Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85182 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:58 am to
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Nobody wants to watch LSU football anymore, so go troll the political board for escapism



Well at least three "new" Tigers on board today.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66981 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:23 am to
Lindsey was jerking over this on Meet the Press this morning. Tells you all you need to know.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:24 am to
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Uh, War Is A Racket was published in 1935. Hitler formally announced his “Heim ins Reich” (“Home To The Reich”) pan-Germanic unification effort in 1936.


...

Wow...

You said something shockingly incorrect, then tried to move the goalposts...

Everything that happened after his book disproved everything he said.

Other's should take mind how your claims dissipate the moment facts are introduced.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:29 am to
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Bomb Beijing?


So nothing...

I guess you have no desire to make things better for Americans.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:12 pm to
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You said something shockingly incorrect, then tried to move the goalposts...



B.S.

Nothing I have claimed is counterfactual and my argument is simple to grasp for anyone who has read just a modicum of history on the rise of Nazism in post WWI Germany. Yet to put a finer point on it, I am arguing that WWII directly resulted from the punitive conditions placed upon Germany by the Treaty of Versailles.

In short, the austere conditions imposed on Germany after WWI led to severe economic instability, including hyperinflation and mass unemployment. These domestic hardships in turn inculcated widespread discontent among the German populace, making Hitler’s promise of a return of a prosperous Germanic Empire extremely appealing.

With that in mind, it can reasonably be argued that WWII was simply a continuation of the “War To End All Wars” and the Treaty of Versailles thus directly led to WWII. And I further am arguing that the needless intervention of the United States into that Imperial conflict tilted the balance of power to the Entente, thus contributing to the retributive terms of peace placed upon the “Huns.”

This not a particularly novel — much less controversial — argument. Many historians have indeed argued that there is a causal relationship between the Treaty of Versailles and the severe economic measures placed upon the German people after WWI that ultimately contributed to the rise of Nazism and the demise of the Weimar Republic.


This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:17 pm to
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So nothing...


Ending these Imperial wars of choice is something. It is indeed a big something.


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I guess you have no desire to make things better for Americans.


Nor does anyone supporting yet more regime change operations.

See how that works?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297665 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:19 pm to
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I guess you have no desire to make things better for Americans.


This doesnt help "Americans."

This helps the establishment DC swine. If you want to help Americans, work on inflation and opportunity.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Ending these Imperial wars of choice is something. It is indeed a big something.


All talk.

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Nor does anyone supporting yet more regime change operations.

No one does, but you think we shouldn't be stopping drug smuggling boats.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:20 pm to
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This helps the establishment DC swine. If you want to help Americans, work on inflation and opportunity.


You think stopping the drug trade doesnt help Americans?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297665 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:22 pm to
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You think stopping the drug trade doesnt help Americans?






This will not put a dent in the drug trade. Its virtue signaling and regime change.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:38 pm to
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No one does, but you think we shouldn't be stopping drug smuggling boats.



As I said above, targeting narco-terrorists on the high sea is altogether different matter than targeting a sovereign nation for a regime change operation. The problem here is Trump is totally reliant upon deeply embedded and wholly corrupted elements in our nation’s national security apparatus to pull off such a goal.

Some of these same elements very likely had some hand in the assassination attempts on Trump himself but we are supposed to believe that all is now hunky-dory simply because Trump won the White House? It is an utterly absurd proposition.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:55 pm to
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This will not put a dent in the drug trade. Its virtue signaling and regime change.


You speak confidently because of your world view.

Not because you can predict the future.

You should question your beliefs more, there are a number of people here who have gone from disliking the government to actively rooting against America.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:56 pm to
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As I said above, targeting narco-terrorists on the high sea is altogether different matter than targeting a sovereign nation for a regime change operation.

I agree I'm actually against any regime change but Pro Targeting Drug boats.

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It is an utterly absurd proposition.


I support targeting problems rather than ignoring them because there is no perfect solution.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
6055 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:36 pm to
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I support targeting problems rather than ignoring them because there is no perfect solution

I agree with this. We are in the situation we are in cause we have ignored what's been going on in our neighborhood. All due to a mix of intent and ignorance.

Trump sanctioning Colombia's Petro, his wife, and son is a big step too.

We just need to be able trust Trump is going in and out hard and swift. No more boondoggles. Just let the military do their job and get it done.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36045 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:51 pm to
You break it, you buy it. Plus this does not put a dent in drugs.... because this isn't about drugs. Oooooooo we'll eliminate about 250 metric tons.....meanwhile the Colombians and Ecuadorian and Peru continue exporting.plus the Venezuelans aren't involved with Fentanyl. China sends the precursors direct to Mexico
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
6055 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:00 pm to
It's been broken by us, and now Trump is trying to fix it. I'm fully aware it's not just about drugs.

Fixing this area is high on the list of what I wanted Trump to figure out. Even back in his first term.

I'll say anyone who complained about the illegal immigration policy under Biden, can't complain about going in and fixing the country they fled.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:03 pm to
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Oooooooo we'll eliminate about 250 metric tons.....meanwhile the Colombians and Ecuadorian and Peru continue exporting.plus the Venezuelans aren't involved with Fentanyl. China sends the precursors direct to Mexico

Again do you have a solution?

It's easy to criticize.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36045 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:24 pm to
You could start with concentrating on the right country(s) and boy of water.
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