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re: In 2015, top 20% of income earners paid 83.9% of all federal income taxes

Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:16 pm to
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IF YOU DON'T LIKE TAXES GO SOMEWHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TAXES LIKE AFRICA AND LET ME KNOW HOW THAT WORKS!


dumb example, you moron.


African nations are always on the bottom of the list when it comes to economic freedom.

This has to be a troll, it just has to. You cannot claim to be a admirer of freedom and think it proper for the gov't to confiscate 90% of somebody's income.

you just can't.

What the hell kind of lessons did your parents teach you?
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:17 pm to
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Congrats. That has absolutely zero to do with the massive amount of money we spend on welfare programs in this country.

But statist on little statist.

i felt particularly statist when i voted for Gary Johnson the last two elections and Ron Paul the one before.

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:17 pm to
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it really blows my mind how so many god fearing conservative christians don't give a flying f**k about their less fortunate brothers and sisters


And that is where you are wrong.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:17 pm to
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This has to be a troll, it just has to. You cannot claim to be a admirer of freedom and think it proper for the gov't to confiscate 90% of somebody's income.
i never advocated going back to 90%, i just pointed out that it was once there, and i have no problem with progressive taxation.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:17 pm to
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i have no problem not making as much so other people don't starve.
literally nothing is stopping you from doing this right now.

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but it really blows my mind how so many god fearing conservative christians don't give a flying f**k about their less fortunate brothers and sisters




conservatives give more money to charity each year than liberals?

You do realize you can oppose taxes, and still support giving money to others, right?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260324 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:18 pm to
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if that sounds appealing you should strive for it


I made min wage out of HS while going to college, I didn't stay there.

If you spend your life making min wage, you're a class A frickup.

You have no concept how the world works outside of your tiny bubble
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:18 pm to
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f that sounds appealing you should strive for it. personally i'm looking for more out of life, and while i love making money, i have no problem not making as much so other people don't starve.


And that's 100% ok for you to live that way. The problem is that you also feel that because you live this way, and you think it is the "correct" way, that others must be forced to live the same way and support your views.

To that I say go frick yourself.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:19 pm to
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literally nothing is stopping you from doing this right now.


i like how you assume i don't do anything with my money, based off of nothing more than i have a different political opinion than yours. good stuff.

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conservatives give more money to charity each year than liberals?

You do realize you can oppose taxes, and still support giving money to others, right?

you do realize that there are more than just liberals and conservative out there, right?
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:20 pm to
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To that I say go frick yourself.
not surprising, people who share beliefs with you are typically really good at telling people to frick off
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:21 pm to
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i felt particularly statist when i voted for Gary Johnson the last two elections and Ron Paul the one before.




I don't give a frick how you voted. The fact remains in this very thread you think it's ok for someone to make 20 million of THEIR money and have the government take 18 million of it. Because they can live "perfectly fine" on 2 million according to you.

That's not libertarian. That's straight up statist authoritarian.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260324 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:21 pm to
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like how you assume i don't do anything with my money, based off of nothing more than i have a different political opinion than yours. good stuff.


How old are you?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:21 pm to
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have no problem not making as much so other people don't starve.


How much do you send overseas?
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:22 pm to
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That's not libertarian. That's straight up statist authoritarian.


thanks for confirming you're ignorant to the spectrum of libertarianism, though
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:23 pm to
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How much do you send overseas?
not sure, i only donate to WWP, ASPCA and St Jude. i imagine most of that money stays here
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:24 pm to
Guess your convictions have their limits. What amount are you willing to go down to to ensure others don't starve? How did you come to that number?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:25 pm to
Chuck schemer flat lied about dynamic scoring.

I wonder if too many people are too stupid to understand dynamic scoring
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:25 pm to
Are you stupid? Where do you think having the opinion that it's perfectly ok for the government to confiscate 90% of a person's earnings and give it to others falls?

Where do you think having the opinion that certain people "make too much" falls?

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23698 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:25 pm to
And at the bottom, the lowest wage earners paid a much larger percent of their income to the basic needs of survival like rent and food. How come they have to pay so much just to survive?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260324 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:26 pm to
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thanks for confirming you're ignorant to the spectrum of libertarianism, though


One of the fathers of left libertarians favored abolishing taxes, except on private property
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:27 pm to
We are talking about taxation in this thread. How much did those people pay in taxes? How much did they get from the government?
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