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re: In 11 days, net neutrality will be repealed, how will you celebrate?

Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:17 pm to
Actually, it wasn’t. ICANN was enforcing net-neutrality, but when it was brought to their attention that AT&T and Comcast were not only capable of throttling Netflix, but had been caught doing so, and that ICANN had zero enforcement mechanism to stop that kind of behavior, they asked the FCC to step in. So, actually, Comcast was caught doing in 2015, before the government stepped in, exactly what we’re warning you they’re about to start doing again with the government stepping back out.

What you fail to realize is that once Comcast fully instigates their plan, all little sites like this, porn, blogs with alternative viewpoints, independent retailers, mom & pop businesses, shareware, message boards, and torrent sites likely will cease to exist. All sites hosting opinions alternate to the MSM will be throttled to death.

You are literally cheering on the death of freedom of speech and commerce on the internet.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:19 pm to
So it’ll reverse to just like things were 2 years ago when no one was botching about the “problem” net neutrality “fixed”
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:20 pm to
If they were throttling Netflix, I didn’t notice. I can afford excellent bandwidth, I’ll be good. No where in the Constitution are you entitled to the internet. If you can’t afford, use the computers at your local public library
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70432 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:23 pm to
They weren’t doing it very long, but I definitely noticed. I had 30mbps fro. AT&T, and one hour into Netflix usage, even if that was the only bandwidth I was using, even on minimum definiton, it would freeze and buffer.

After Net Neutrality, they stopped that crap.

Just because YOU didn’t notice it during the 6-12 months they got away with it doesn’t mean they won’t get far more bold with it once they have the official a-ok from the FCC.

You are being incredibly short-sighted. This is about so much more than Netflix.

This is about allowing private corporations, while colluding and operating as a cartel and typically having geographic monopolies, to decide which sites customers can and cannot access. It is allowing comcast and at&t to shrink the internet to only their approved partner sites.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:27 pm to
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You are being incredibly short-sighted.

Irony at its finest.
Posted by Paradiddler
in a groove
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:28 pm to
I'm too busy filling my hard drive with porn to celebrate anything. When it happens, I'll still be able to fap to it.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:28 pm to
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ICANN was enforcing net-neutrality


Just looked them up. They’re a private entity. We don’t need private internet police.
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18363 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:29 pm to
It really doesn't matter, my village will be flooded soon from the rising oceans due to man mad climate change.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70432 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:31 pm to
At least if the government starts censoring shiite, I can vote in a new governmenf. I can raise a stench and elect candidates that will end the censoring. I don’t have that power against Comcast and the other big ISP’s, when thanks to crony-capitalism and being treated like a utility when it be effited them, they dominate the market while protected from competition by massive barriers to entry.

This is NOT the free market. This is crony capitalism.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86138 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:31 pm to
I think Cpt just inadvertently gave you a compliment on your dick size
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86138 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:32 pm to
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So it’ll reverse to just like things were 2 years ago when no one was botching about the “problem” net neutrality “fixed”


I mean...this is just completely false
Posted by TopJimmy
Heart of Dixie
Member since Nov 2011
1354 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:32 pm to
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If they were throttling Netflix, I didn’t notice. I can afford excellent bandwidth, I’ll be good. No where in the Constitution are you entitled to the internet. If you can’t afford, use the computers at your local public library

Exactly. Bandwidth is a commodity not because of infrastructure, but because of demand. So many millennials want to watch movies on their phone. That bandwidth is provided by private industry - they should be able to charge for it.

For all you "free internet" guys, I'm with you. Free 56k access points throughout your town. Email, Resumes, all of it freely available. Movies, not so much until you can pay for the bandwidth.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86138 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:33 pm to
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We don’t need private internet police.


oh the irony
Posted by Paradiddler
in a groove
Member since Jul 2016
1320 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:35 pm to
What ilk holds most ISPs? The government may end up killing their own message.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70432 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:36 pm to
They already charge tiered for download/upload speed. If I want the bare-bones internet package that will be too slow for streaming movies, I already can do that.

What this will do, is you’ll be paying for the speed to stream stuff like you already do, but whoops, you have to pay extra to stream from THAT site. See, we own NBC/Universal and Hulu, so you can stream their video, but you’ll have to pay extra if you want to add ESPN and Netflix to your package. And don’t even think about torrents or porn. They’re illegal and throttled on all packages!
Posted by cameronml
Member since Oct 2007
1934 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:37 pm to
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Exactly. Bandwidth is a commodity not because of infrastructure, but because of demand. So many millennials want to watch movies on their phone. That bandwidth is provided by private industry - they should be able to charge for it.

For all you "free internet" guys, I'm with you. Free 56k access points throughout your town. Email, Resumes, all of it freely available. Movies, not so much until you can pay for the bandwidth.


They already do charge more for higher speeds. Or do you think everyone pays the same price and gets 100/mbps a second?
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:38 pm to
Throttle ESPN? Sounds good to me
Posted by cameronml
Member since Oct 2007
1934 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:40 pm to
Parmen - could you provide a detailed list of ACTUAL positives that you will personally experience with net neutrality being eliminated?

And it has to be more than "blah blah free markets....blah blah piss off liberals"
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86138 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:40 pm to
Parmen is posting from Russia
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70432 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:41 pm to
Sounds great until you realize most LSU Baseball games are on SEC Network+, i.e. online streaming only. If Comcast throttles ESPN, no more watching LSU Baseball outside the Box. Bad enough you’re already paying $150 for cable and 50mbps internet, but you need to pay another $14.95/month for Netflix to stop throtteling the ESPN app.

What ending Net Neutrality enables ISP’s to do is steal away what you are already paying for and then force you to pay extra to have it back.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 8:44 pm
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