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IMO next four weeks will be key

Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:00 am
Posted by BoomNation
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:00 am
Birch said in press on Wednesday that curves would not be stable till sometime next week!

Basically most of the cases being reported have been active for weeks and are just now being confirmed

Watch most of next week and first three weeks of april! If precautions really work cases should start decreasing a bit by then
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:02 am to
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If precautions really work cases should start decreasing a bit by then

Unless testing capability expands
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:04 am to
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Basically most of the cases being reported have been active for weeks and are just now being confirmed


Birx is in charge of fixing the reporting system.

I'm not trying to pump sunshine (and I've said this before) - hundreds of thousands of people - probably millions - worked on fighting/controlling the AIDS virus over the past 40 years. Many folks did amazing things during that time. In a period of 10 to 15 years, it went from being a death sentence to a condition far more analogous to diabetes. If caught early and responds to treatment, I'm not sure it's that bad now - closer to Hepatitis C (although not quite that easy to eliminate).

Of the 40 most important people in that fight, globally, Fauci and Birx are 2 of them.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 7:06 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:05 am to
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Unless testing capability expands


I do think we're past that as a chokepoint. And if we're not past it, we're getting very close to clearing up that question mark.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:43 am to
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We could already have tens of thousands of deaths baked into the cake.


GTFO here if you can't point to a spike in deaths that may have been misattributed to other causes.

This isn't the stone age - we know who dies and a reasonable explanation of why.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:46 am to
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Look at Bourbon St partying in NO.


That’s not happening.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:49 am to
No its not the key. The virus will eventually pop back up as you have to be in lock-down basically 12-18 months to kill it in this way. Which is why Hong Kong is getting more cases again.

Its math.
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Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:51 am to
Grandpa with diabetes/heart disease/whatever should be in self-isolation as the current course of action has no real chance at success.

If Grandpa gets sick from this, and he gets so bad that he has to go to the hospital - more than likely he is going to die. If Grandpa is put on a vent 95% chance of death.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 7:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:52 am to
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Unless testing capability expands

we're not producing the tens (hundreds?) of millions of tests that would be needed at this point
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:54 am to
Testing does not solve the problem. They can test for the flu and the flu still exists.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53411 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:55 am to
That's my concern. General public can put up with maybe another couple of weeks of this. A month tops. No way we can endure April-June lockdown. I suspect we're just going to have a spike in cases later in the year.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:56 am to
You need 6 months at the least, and if you are wrong you have to start from scratch.... more than likely 12-18 months. The transmission rate of this, appears to be higher than the flu... and we can't stop the flu.

YOu are correct, at some point it will probably come right back... already appears to be in Hong Kong... notice the Chinese kicking out reporters?

This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 7:58 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:57 am to
in a magical world where we had about 30M tests made for a novel virus AND the ability to slow down time to use all those tests, we could have used testing to isolate populations relatively early.

if this was only isolated in Los Angles county at first, that's over 10M people. even if we had a magical test that worked perfectly, we'd need likely more than 10M tests to account for people who test negative when they don't have it but may be exposed later
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4493 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:57 am to
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That's my concern. General public can put up with maybe another couple of weeks of this. A month tops. No way we can endure April-June lockdown


A shutdown that long shouldn't be tolerated
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:58 am to
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That's my concern. General public can put up with maybe another couple of weeks of this. A month tops. No way we can endure April-June lockdown. I suspect we're just going to have a spike in cases later in the year.

i've been posting this the past week or so

there won't be a society left to save in possibly 1 more month
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6919 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:59 am to
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Testing does not solve the problem. They can test for the flu and the flu still exists.



So dumb
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:59 am to
It will help but its almost an impossibility... but why? Everyone is going to get this... this will be much harder to stop than the flu.

The numbers don't make sense, many more people will die of the flu.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 8:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 8:01 am to
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but why? Everyone is going to get this

the whole "flatten the curve" policy assumes most everyone gets this, but we will all get it at different times and spread it out

all of these policies are about ERs, urgent care beds, and vents
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 8:03 am to
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there won't be a society left to save in possibly 1 more month


Yep and most don't see it... What is left to rebuild when we crawl out of our bunkers...
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 8:05 am to
That's pretty much meaningless... the numbers are not go... if Grandpa gets this and is so sick he has to go to the hospital.... he is likely already dead. If he is put on a vent 95% chance of death.

Its not about beds... its about keeping Grandpa out of the hospital... once he gets to the hospital its basically the morgue.
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