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Posted on 6/22/18 at 4:59 pm to Powerman
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Math
You suck at it
It's not the math I suck at. I added it up right. I doofussed what the numbers meant.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:01 pm to bstew3006
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When you figure in crime rates per capita of illegals to legal citizens, its a huge fricking problem. So no, they do not commit fewer crimes, Idiot.
I was coming here to post this. People who look simply at the raw numbers of homicides are as dimwitted as can be.
The question is as a percentage of population (or per capita).
I don't have time to find the numbers and do the math, but based on the number of murders committed by illegals as reported in this thread I'm willing to guess as a percentage it is well over the normal U.S. population percentage.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:04 pm to rintintin
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I don't have time to find the numbers and do the math, but based on the number of murders committed by illegals as reported in this thread I'm willing to guess as a percentage it is well over the normal U.S. population percentage.
This is the corner the left keeps painting themselves into.
Either the the number of illegals is small (which drives up the "per capita), or the "per capita" is small (which requires a higher number of illegals).
Heads, we win. Tails, you lose.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:06 pm to BamaAtl
They commit more murders than natives.
Why the frick should we let in people no better than our own citizens when so many more want to come?
Illegals should be elite
Dumbshit leftists do not understand supply and demand
Why the frick should we let in people no better than our own citizens when so many more want to come?
Illegals should be elite
Dumbshit leftists do not understand supply and demand
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:07 pm to BamaAtl
There is a difference between an Illegal Immigrant and an Immigrant.
They have been telling us since the late 90’s that we only have 11 million Illegal Immigrants in this country. There is no way that is still the case in 2018. Some sources say the number is between 25 to 35 million.
Illegal Immigrants absolutely disproportionately commit crimes compared to the rest of America. In fact if broken down by percentage basis they trail only black males as far as violent crimes and murders committed.
It is like we can’t see through these agenda driven puff pieces that don’t tell the whole story.
They have been telling us since the late 90’s that we only have 11 million Illegal Immigrants in this country. There is no way that is still the case in 2018. Some sources say the number is between 25 to 35 million.
Illegal Immigrants absolutely disproportionately commit crimes compared to the rest of America. In fact if broken down by percentage basis they trail only black males as far as violent crimes and murders committed.
It is like we can’t see through these agenda driven puff pieces that don’t tell the whole story.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:09 pm to BamaAtl
This comment alone from one of your sources is laughable..
This is propaganda tripe that cannot be proven. If illegals suppress the wages then you have to pay more to draw US labor. I though Dems wanted a living wage?
Also...
So we have accurate stats on these poor souls in the shadows? Gotcha.
So for this one illegal immigrants are slightly behind native born Americans in crimes and sexual assault. You have us here if you accept we know the proper number of illegals and the crimes are being accurately documented (big if Btw).
BUT...if they were not allowed to be in the country those stats would be ZERO. That’s better.
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Felbab-Brown explains that many of the jobs occupied by undocumented workers in the United States are physically demanding jobs that Americans do not want,
This is propaganda tripe that cannot be proven. If illegals suppress the wages then you have to pay more to draw US labor. I though Dems wanted a living wage?
Also...
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The number of unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2000
So we have accurate stats on these poor souls in the shadows? Gotcha.
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Illegal Immigrant Conviction and Arrest Rates for Homicide, Sexual Assault, Larceny, and Other Crimes
So for this one illegal immigrants are slightly behind native born Americans in crimes and sexual assault. You have us here if you accept we know the proper number of illegals and the crimes are being accurately documented (big if Btw).
BUT...if they were not allowed to be in the country those stats would be ZERO. That’s better.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:12 pm to Ag Zwin
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2007 - 12.2
2008 - 11.7
2009 - 11.3
2010 - 11.4
2011 - 11.5
2012 - 11.2
2013 - 11.2
2014 - 11.1
2015 - 11.0 (last "hard" number at time of publication; 2016 was preliminary)
Those aren't "per year" immigration numbers as you stupidly claimed.
What is your contention? That we have close to 100 million illegals in the country?
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:13 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Some sources say the number is between 25 to 35 million.
Cite them then
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Illegal Immigrants absolutely disproportionately commit crimes compared to the rest of America.
Cite it then
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:17 pm to Powerman
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Those aren't "per year" immigration numbers as you stupidly claimed.
What is your contention? That we have close to 100 million illegals in the country?
YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS HERE? It's that you're right, and I am wrong.
This is for me:
Self-imposed TD ban. I am off for the next 5 minutes.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:17 pm to BamaAtl
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Immigration is not a Problem
Sure it’s not. Illegal immigration is though.
I don’t care is natural citizens commit more crimes, they are in this country legally and will be dealt with. We have enough crime, we don’t need people coming in illegally and committing murders.
No one should have to bury their child because they were killed by someone who shouldn’t even be here.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:20 pm to bstew3006
quote:I suspect he does, though. He's simply that duplicitous, which frankly is embarrassing considering his claimed profession.quote:NO...no he does not!
You understand that, right?
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:38 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:39 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:42 pm to Godfather1
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Favors open borders.
Nah. But I realize it's not even in the top 50 of issues we should be working on in this country.
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Vocally against voter ID laws.
Duh. Who likes racism codified into law?
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Anybody care to connect the dots here?
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:44 pm to bstew3006
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When you figure in crime rates per capita of illegals to legal citizens, its a huge fricking problem.
You should read the articles/data you're provided before making an incorrect point.
Per capita, crime rates among illegal immigrants are lower than those of native-born.
So much for your narrative...
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:44 pm to gthog61
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They commit more murders than natives.
This is wrong, unless by natives you mean Native Americans, not native-born Americans. Which may still be wrong, not sure what the numbers are for that demographic.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:45 pm to BamaAtl
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crime rates among illegal immigrants are lower than those of native-born.
how many illegal immigrants are in the country?
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:46 pm to BamaAtl
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There is no immigration problem, except for what con men sell to the gullible to stoke their fears.
It really depends where the immigrants come from.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:46 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Illegal Immigrants absolutely disproportionately commit crimes compared to the rest of America.
This is a lie.
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