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Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
3923 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:00 pm to
Dont even argue further with these people norbert, they are too stupid to see. This country was brought up on many racist principles, and we have done a great job of reducing those, but to act like we live in a perfect society where racism doesnt exist is just ignorant.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:01 pm to
Is strongsafety banned?
Posted by Norbert Rillieux
Member since Nov 2017
126 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Kind of sickening that you're laughing about this and claiming to strike nerves.


Sickening?! Because I disagree that there is institutional racism? Well bring your sick arse to the doctor.

quote]Working men and women of this country are sick of being called racist for something that occurred YEARS ago by both blacks and whites. [/quote]

boo fricking hoo

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I am sick of losing 40% of my paycheck to cover social programs and yet I am the racist for questioning institutional racism.


Link to where only white people pay taxes.

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Some of my closest friends are hard working black dudes who get it. They face racism today because of people like you.


Elaborate? I make your people do racist things to your black friends? Also what is it I am doing to make white be racist towards your black friends? I find it funny you won't condemn the actual racist.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:04 pm to
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The answer is simple US...European countries ....Australia are the least racist and most culturally accommodating countries on earth.....Institutional Racism is a myth in this country
Whether you think institutional racism exists in this country or not, this is a wholly silly argument. Asians and other non-whites were immigrating to this country over 100 years ago when legal, pervasive, on-the-books racism was very much a reality.

Non-whites immigrate here for the same reason you'd move your family to San Francisco or Seattle or DC or some other place you probably at least notionally don't like if someone offered you a job making $2M a year--economic opportunity.
Posted by Norbert Rillieux
Member since Nov 2017
126 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Dont even argue further with these people norbert, they are too stupid to see. This country was brought up on many racist principles, and we have done a great job of reducing those, but to act like we live in a perfect society where racism doesnt exist is just ignorant.



I know I just do it cause I am bored this one idiot blames me for why his "black" friends face racism from other whites. The bubble these people live in.
Posted by MajorTaylor
Member since Aug 2017
217 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:05 pm to
The fact that people of color seek the opportunity available in a country does not evidence that the country is absent racism.

The fact that blacks seek jobs at a sawmill owned by a guy who is openly racist and as a result of his racism limits the advancement of blacks within his business does not mean that the owner isn't racist.

The nations in blue on the map don't necessarily correlate to least racist. Brazil ranks high in racial inclusion yet it has experienced a net loss. Russia is pretty damn racist yet it has experienced a net gain.
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4310 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:06 pm to
The War on drugs began in large part at the insistence of black and democratic political leaders

1969. January 8. New York Times reports that an NAACP official in Harlem likens Harlem “to the Wild West” and warns that blacks are resorting to “vigilantism” in an effort to stop drug-related crime.


1970. June. Ebony magazine publishes article titled “Blacks Declare War on Dope.”Rep. Shirley Chisholm is quoted describing the drug epidemic in her district as “comparable to the bubonic plague.”

the Black Caucus presented Nixon with a manifesto of sixty priorities for the African American community. It included the demand that “drug abuse and addiction be declared a major national crisis” and a call to use “all existing resources” to stop the trafficking of drugs.

1975. Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) introduces legislation to create a Federal Sentencing Commission. Measure fails. Initially conceived as an effort to introduce fairness into sentencing, the concept would later be adopted by Reagan administration as a way to insure tougher prison terms.

1986. July 15. Black congressman Walter Fauntroy testifies before a Committee hearing, describing crack cocaine as “the plague.”
“Every area of our life, every institution of our society is being affected by this tragedy and high cost of drug abuse,” he says.
Fauntroy laments the fact that prisons are “clogged” with drug offenders and cites a study suggesting that “65% of the persons arrested at the present time have some form of illegal drug in their system.”


1986. October. MAJOR FEDERAL DRUG WAR LEGISLATION PASSES. Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 passes Congress, enacting far tougher Federal mandatory minimum sentencing laws for drug offenders, including those caught with marijuana. Establishes a 100-to-1 disparity in punishments for crack cocaine compared with powedr form of drug.
The measure is supported by the Congressional Black Caucus


1987. March 5. Veteran civil rights activists begin political fast to demand Federal action to slow illegal drug use,


1988. May 17. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) publishes an op-ed in the New York Times titled “Legalize Drugs? Not on your life.” He chastises President Reagan for not doing enough to battle illegal narcotics and calls crack “the worst drug epidemic in our history.”

1989. March. Ebony magazine publishes an article describing Rep. Rangel as “The Front-Line General In the War On Drugs.” Rangel talks about the “cancerous epidemic” of drugs hitting black communities in America.


1994. Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act passes Democratically-controlled Congress with overwhelming margins based on Democratic support, with significant Republican opposition. (Republicans opposed gun control measures within the bill.)
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140394 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:06 pm to
You are the actual racist as usual, strong safety.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:07 pm to
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The nations in blue on the map don't necessarily correlate to least racist.


Racism is virtually dead. When the topics of the day include microaggressions, we're digging too deeply.

Posted by Norbert Rillieux
Member since Nov 2017
126 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:08 pm to
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roadGator


Posted by Norbert Rillieux
Member since Nov 2017
126 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Collegedropout



Where you at baw? Got too hot in the kitchen for ya?
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18861 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:10 pm to
bwahahahaha.

fricking pathetic.
Posted by Norbert Rillieux
Member since Nov 2017
126 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:11 pm to
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Rover Range



Where y'at baw? You hiding now Mr. Big shite?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140394 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:11 pm to
Whining about institutional racism without naming a present institution that's racist is indeed a loser's position.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78581 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
Law enforcement logically focuses on areas where there is higher crime, particularly violent crime. That means urban areas where there is violent crime (closely related to black population) have the highest crime, the highest police presence and thus the highest number of arrests. If blacks were smoking/carrying/distributing weed in rural South Dakota they would also not likely be arrested. Because there are no cops around the corner. Law enforcement is subject to the same laws of efficiency as everybody else, they tend to go where the crime is.

It is not racism that has caused blacks to engage in every single Social Pathology at much higher rates than any other race. It's a moral failing within black culture itself stemming from the demise of the black family unit. Which stems from the failed Democratic Party idea that the Benevolent State could replace the family unit with a check.

Fortunately for blacks and for all Americans there is a way to repair the collapse of the black (and increasing white) underclass.

FAMILY.
EDUCATION.
HARD WORK.
In short, personal responsibility. That alone, will overcome the bad intentions of 99.99978 % of all racist and tribal intentions. Because America fricking ROCKS.


Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
If it wasn't a Slate article I might take it seriously. Got any other sources?

Also, it's kinda irrelevant without knowing how many people apply.

How can anybody try to say whites benefit most from AA? Which was your point.
Posted by Norbert Rillieux
Member since Nov 2017
126 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Whining about institutional racism without naming a present institution that's racist is indeed a loser's position.



I did make my argument. Just look how College Dropout and the rest of the dipped out.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Sickening?! Because I disagree that there is institutional racism? Well bring your sick arse to the doctor.




Sickening that you can't substantiate a damn thing.

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quote]Working men and women of this country are sick of being called racist for something that occurred YEARS ago by both blacks and whites.


boo fricking hoo
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Not helping your "not-case"

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Link to where only white people pay taxes.



Please point out where I made this claim and ill go research a link. Again, you're bad at this. How racist of you to read into that. (you see what i did there?)
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Elaborate? I make your people do racist things to your black friends? Also what is it I am doing to make white be racist towards your black friends? I find it funny you won't condemn the actual racist.



If I had faith in your ability to reason, I'd try to delve into this and really type out my explanation. At the end of the day, your shitty antics of blaming a world set up for ALL to succeed is pushing people away and causing more of the divide. Hard working black people face a new level of stigmas now. If they work hard and earn everything, people will view them as having been given everything. In 2017, nothing, absolutely nothing is set against any black person. The odds are all in their favor. White go applies to Exxon, needs a masters. Black guy applies to Exxon, all he needs is a GED. Louisiana has 4 black colleges. How many white colleges? You've tried really hard to make a BLT out of a nothing burger, and I want to applaud you. But you've also been awfully racist in how you go about doing it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:13 pm to
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Here are few facts. 1. The prison population is made up of majority black males despite being like 6% of the population 2. The leading drugs that are abused in this country is opiods and herion. 3. Crack cocaine users/sellers make up the majority of drug charges in the prison.


And? That list is supposed to prove what?
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:14 pm to
Still waiting for a response to why this black man was able to escape the "institutional racism" in America.

Must be just cause he has a "white" name like Walter.

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Too many people believe that slavery is a “peculiar institution.” That’s what Kenneth Stampp called slavery in his book, “Peculiar Institution: Slavery in the Ante-Bellum South.” But slavery is by no means peculiar, odd or unusual. It was common among ancient peoples such as the Egyptians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Hittites, Greeks, Persians, Armenians and many others. Large numbers of Christians were enslaved during the Ottoman wars in Europe. White slaves were common in Europe from the Dark Ages to the Middle Ages. It was only after A.D. 1600 that Europeans joined with Arabs and Africans and started the Atlantic slave trade. As David P. Forsythe wrote in his book, “The Globalist,” “The fact remained that at the beginning of the nineteenth century an estimated three-quarters of all people alive were trapped in bondage against their will either in some form of slavery or serfdom.”

While slavery constitutes one of the grossest encroachments on human liberty, it is by no means unique or restricted to the Western world or United States, as many liberal academics would have us believe. Much of their indoctrination of our young people, at all levels of education, paints our nation’s founders as racist adherents to slavery, but the story is not so simple.

At the time of the 1787 Constitutional Convention, slaves were about 40 percent of the population of the Southern colonies. Apportionment in the House of Representatives and the number of electoral votes each state would have in presidential elections would be based upon population. Southern delegates to the convention wanted slaves to be counted as one person. Northern delegates to the convention, and those opposed to slavery, wanted only free persons of each state to be counted for the purposes of apportionment in the House of Representatives and the Electoral College. The compromise reached was that each slave would be counted as only three-fifths of a person.

Many criticize this compromise as proof of racism. My question to these grossly uninformed critics is whether they would have found it more preferable for slaves to be counted as whole persons. Slaves counted as whole persons would have given slaveholding Southern states much more political power. Or, would the critics of the founders prefer that the Northern delegates not compromise and not allow slaves to be counted at all. If they did, it is likely that the Constitution would have not been ratified. Thus, the question emerges is whether blacks would be better off with Northern states having gone their way and Southern states having gone theirs, resulting in no U.S. Constitution and no Union? Unlike today’s pseudointellectuals, black abolitionist Frederick Douglass understood the compromise, saying that the three-fifths clause was “a downright disability laid upon the slaveholding states” that deprived them of “two-fifths of their natural basis of representation.”

Douglass’ vision was shared by Patrick Henry and others. Henry said, expressing the reality of the three-fifths compromise, “As much as I deplore slavery, I see that prudence forbids its abolition.” With this union, Congress at least had the power to abolish slave trade by 1808. According to delegate James Wilson, many believed the anti-slave-trade clause laid “the foundation for banishing slavery out of this country.” Many of the founders abhorred slavery. Their statements can be read on my website, walterewilliams.com.

The most unique aspect of slavery in the Western world was the moral outrage against it, which began to emerge in the 18th century and led to massive elimination efforts. It was Britain’s military sea power that put an end to the slave trade. And our country fought a costly war that brought an end to slavery. Unfortunately, these facts about slavery are not in the lessons taught in our schools and colleges. Instead, there is gross misrepresentation and suggestion that slavery was a uniquely American practice.

Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate webpage at www.creators.com.
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Slavery was published on July 19, 2017.


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