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Immigration--the right and smart approach
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:40 am
First off we should let anyone that works, is not on public assistance of any kind and has health insurance that is here today have a green card now. We want people that contribute and it is foolish not to want such people.
Second we should give anyone "illegally" here 90 days to get a job and get off of welfare and get insurance and when they do they should be given a green card.
These green cards should be immediately revoked if the circumstances change for the individual and they are become unemployed or without insurance.
Third we should deport the rest and should report their entire families. Birthright should be ignored. (I suspect this will be a relatively small number.)
We should apply the same financial criteria to those wanting to come here. Almost all countries have financial criteria for work visas and they enforce those visas. We should too.
Welfare benefits should not be the carrot that attracts people to the USA.
We should not limit the number of people we let into the country under these terms.
Second we should give anyone "illegally" here 90 days to get a job and get off of welfare and get insurance and when they do they should be given a green card.
These green cards should be immediately revoked if the circumstances change for the individual and they are become unemployed or without insurance.
Third we should deport the rest and should report their entire families. Birthright should be ignored. (I suspect this will be a relatively small number.)
We should apply the same financial criteria to those wanting to come here. Almost all countries have financial criteria for work visas and they enforce those visas. We should too.
Welfare benefits should not be the carrot that attracts people to the USA.
We should not limit the number of people we let into the country under these terms.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:41 am to I B Freeman
First things first; give every illegal 60 days to come forward and register as an illegal. If they don't, they gone.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:42 am to I B Freeman
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These green cards should be immediately revoked if the circumstances change for the individual and they are become unemployed or without insurance.
Or are found guilty of a felony.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:46 am to I B Freeman
Nah. Give any Illegal Immigrant here 90 days to self deport with the ability to be first in line for a vetted process of legal immigration. Anyone who is left after that and is caught is sent back with no chance of returning.
Tax remittances to Mexico and Central America at 40%
Build the Wall
Militarize our southern border like 95% of all developed nations do
Fine business owners and companies that are employing Illegal Immigrants
Tax remittances to Mexico and Central America at 40%
Build the Wall
Militarize our southern border like 95% of all developed nations do
Fine business owners and companies that are employing Illegal Immigrants
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:56 am to Jake_LaMotta
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Fine business owners and companies that are employing Illegal Immigrants
No. How are they suppose to know? Second, why punish work?
We want people that will work and pay their own way.
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Tax remittances to Mexico and Central America at 40%
What if Mexico taxes remittances to the USA at 40%? That is a foolish idea.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:57 am to I B Freeman
Work permits are what most of them want. Ability to come to the U.S. to work, send money home, and be able to return to Mexico. I don't have a problem with this. Not everyone in Mexico wants to live in the U.S. this is a fallacy. They can live great in Mexico on relatively low U.S. wages.
If you have a work permit and commit any crime while in the U.S. you are done. This includes drunk driving. No work permits, no further entry into the U.S. Basically banned for life.
Immigrating families that go through the system have a probationary period that involves work and no criminal activity... say 8-10 years. Any criminal activity and they are gone. The entire family is gone... even the ones born here in the U.S. They go back with the family. Let them know this up front when they are first allowed to immigrate.
No voting rights at all until citizenship is granted. Caught voting this is a crime and you are gone. Can't respect the law then this is not the country for you and your family.
If you have a work permit and commit any crime while in the U.S. you are done. This includes drunk driving. No work permits, no further entry into the U.S. Basically banned for life.
Immigrating families that go through the system have a probationary period that involves work and no criminal activity... say 8-10 years. Any criminal activity and they are gone. The entire family is gone... even the ones born here in the U.S. They go back with the family. Let them know this up front when they are first allowed to immigrate.
No voting rights at all until citizenship is granted. Caught voting this is a crime and you are gone. Can't respect the law then this is not the country for you and your family.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:58 am to Wtodd
That would be the first thing and would work simultaneously as they came to get their green card.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:59 am to Tridentds
Fine and the republicans should be out front promoting this.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:02 am to I B Freeman
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Fine and the republicans should be out front promoting this.
If their goal was something other than a monoethnic state.. they would be
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:04 am to bmy
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If their goal was something other than a monoethnic state.. they would be
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:06 am to I B Freeman
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What if Mexico taxes remittances to the USA at 40%? That is a foolish idea.
Are Mexicans sending 26 Billion a year into the US?
You are aware this is a very one sided issue. What you posted is actually foolish.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:08 am to I B Freeman
The path to citizenship should always begin, persist and end at the US Embassy in the country of their birth. No exceptions.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:14 am to I B Freeman
The green card thing is pretty complex. I'm working with an employee on one now, and it is an intensive, multi year process. The idea being that the government must be convinced that that job couldn't be filled by an American before granting the green card. I like the concept, but the bureaucracy is exhausting and needs to be changed.
I support the wall. I think a waiting period to come forward and apply for a green card is a good start. Let them apply for naturalization the old fashioned way. The rest go back. Making some one-time exception for citizenship just encourages more border jumping.
I support the wall. I think a waiting period to come forward and apply for a green card is a good start. Let them apply for naturalization the old fashioned way. The rest go back. Making some one-time exception for citizenship just encourages more border jumping.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:19 am to Vacherie Saint
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The idea being that the government must be convinced that that job couldn't be filled by an American before granting the green card.
Yeah that is a BS requirement and puts bureaucrats in a position of deciding were there any Americans to do the job or not.
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I think a waiting period to come forward and apply for a green card is a good start.
There is no reason to make working people today wait. If we want some kind of short waiting period to check out new applicants fine but we should make the process simple and easy for those that are going to be productive taxpaying workers.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:24 am to I B Freeman
That's what I'm talking about. Give them a few months to come forward. If you comply, you get expedited greencards. Everyone else...
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:26 am to bmy
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If their goal was something other than a monoethnic state.. they would be
You are one racist dude. Can't believe you think republicans are only white. Do you seriously not know how many mexicans and blacks voted for Trump?
You and the other idiot in this thread obviously think that all mexicans and blacks think exactly alike. Might want to check your racist arse... What do you think?
JFC
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:28 am to I B Freeman
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That would be the first thing and would work simultaneously as they came to get their green card.
The rest of your plan is pretty solid except I'd give them temp green cards until we vet them.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:44 am to I B Freeman
We should go after the employers that continually hire illegal aliens. Wages go up, more jobs open up, and less illegals.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:14 am to I B Freeman
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First off we should let anyone that works, is not on public assistance of any kind and has health insurance that is here today have a green card now. We want people that contribute and it is foolish not to want such people.
Second we should give anyone "illegally" here 90 days to get a job and get off of welfare and get insurance and when they do they should be given a green card.
These green cards should be immediately revoked if the circumstances change for the individual and they are become unemployed or without insurance.
Nope.
Your way is completely unfair to legal immigrants that have paid their dues and bided their time to come to this country illegally.
They need to go back and get in line with the rest of the people that want to be legal immigrants.
This smacks of sanitized cheap labor talking points from the Chamber of Commerce crowd btw.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:16 am to bmy
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If their goal was something other than a monoethnic state.. they would be
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