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Illegal aliens and voting
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:25 pm
It has been 33 years since President Reagan signed the last amnesty bill. Since then, 10's of millions of illegal aliens have come across our southern border.
I have seen accusations of voter fraud by illegal aliens, but nobody ever talks about the fact that the children of those illegal aliens ARE US citizens and purportedly voting. Children born 33 years ago to illegal alien parents have been voting for 15 years. Every year, a new group of children of illegal aliens comes of age and starts to vote. The longer the Democrats can hang onto the status quo, the more children of illegal aliens will be voting.
Overall, 70% of Hispanics voted Democrat in the last election. This number could be higher within the subgroup of children of illegal aliens. The Democrats are winning this battle by just hanging onto the status quo.
ETA: Not to mention that hispanics tend to have more children than non-hispanics.
I have seen accusations of voter fraud by illegal aliens, but nobody ever talks about the fact that the children of those illegal aliens ARE US citizens and purportedly voting. Children born 33 years ago to illegal alien parents have been voting for 15 years. Every year, a new group of children of illegal aliens comes of age and starts to vote. The longer the Democrats can hang onto the status quo, the more children of illegal aliens will be voting.
Overall, 70% of Hispanics voted Democrat in the last election. This number could be higher within the subgroup of children of illegal aliens. The Democrats are winning this battle by just hanging onto the status quo.
ETA: Not to mention that hispanics tend to have more children than non-hispanics.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 5:29 pm
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:27 pm to Jax-Tiger
illegal aliens
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:28 pm to Kafka
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illegal aliens
You are correct. I usually use the correct term, and I did so in the body of my post. I will change it in the title.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:37 pm to Jax-Tiger
They are valid U.S. citizens under the law and the Constitution. What do you suggest doing? Revoking citizenship for these folks after they have had it their entire lives?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:39 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Illegal aliens and voting
Textbook foreign interference in elections, yet leftists fervently support this relating to illegals the Hypocrisy Party
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:44 pm to GAAtty70
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They are valid U.S. citizens under the law and the Constitution. What do you suggest doing? Revoking citizenship for these folks after they have had it their entire lives?
I don’t think that is what the OP is proposing. He is just pointing out that illegals currently in the US are having babies here, that are US citizens and will likely vote Democrat one day. One illegal can spawn any number of future democrats. The flow has to be stopped now.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:48 pm to TheFonz
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He is just pointing out that illegals currently in the US are having babies here, that are US citizens and will likely vote Democrat one day.
Bingo. Even if the total number of people voting illegally is zero, the illegal aliens in this country are contributing to the number of people who vote for Democrats. It is the long game, for sure, but a family who comes into the country today, could impact the election in 18 years.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:11 pm to Jax-Tiger
I deal professionally a lot with that particular demographic. They are almost universally very personally conservative. If the GOP had a different stance on immigration, they likely would be cultivating a lot of new Republican voters.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:21 pm to Jax-Tiger
I read about a study done in Texas where the white births to Hispanic births in Texas was 4-1 
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:01 pm to Jax-Tiger
as long as there are serious reforms in the immigration laws....
1. eliminating birthright crap
2. eliminating lottery
3. full funding of the wall
4. eliminating allowing citizen immigrants to willy nilly bring in extended family
5. eliminating visa holders to bring in any family before becoming citizens.
I am ok with limited amnesty for people who have been paying taxes for a mininumn of 5 years as long as they vo through full citizenship requirements within ONE year of the amniesty, successfully become a citizen within 1 year of their application AND can prove they are fluent in ENGLISH.
The 5 requirements and fluency on english are a MUST before any amniesty can be considered.
1. eliminating birthright crap
2. eliminating lottery
3. full funding of the wall
4. eliminating allowing citizen immigrants to willy nilly bring in extended family
5. eliminating visa holders to bring in any family before becoming citizens.
I am ok with limited amnesty for people who have been paying taxes for a mininumn of 5 years as long as they vo through full citizenship requirements within ONE year of the amniesty, successfully become a citizen within 1 year of their application AND can prove they are fluent in ENGLISH.
The 5 requirements and fluency on english are a MUST before any amniesty can be considered.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:09 pm to GAAtty70
quote:So, embrace open borders and hope and pray they vote Republican?
If the GOP had a different stance on immigration, they likely would be cultivating a lot of new Republican voters.
Yeah, frick that.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:17 pm to GAAtty70
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GAAtty70
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:19 pm to Jax-Tiger
Real ID is lurking in the shadows.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:25 pm to Jax-Tiger
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I have seen accusations of voter fraud by illegal aliens, but nobody ever talks about the fact that the children of those illegal aliens ARE US citizens and purportedly voting.
They are but shouldn't be.
The 14th Amendment doesn't actually give citizenship to children born in the US to foreign nationals.
Proof that my statement is true.
The children of diplomats born in the US are not granted citizenship.
The children of Foreign Military stationed in the US are not granted citizenship.
So if children of people/non-citizens, here legally, are not granted citizenship then it stands to reason those here illegally shouldn't be granted citizenship.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:08 am to 93and99
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GAAtty70
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Which part has you rolling on the floor? The fact that I deal with immigrants every day or my view of their personal politics?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:30 am to Jax-Tiger
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nobody ever talks about the fact that the children of those illegal aliens ARE US citizens and purportedly voting.
I've been screaming this for a while. They are importing vote factories. They want poor people to come across the border, get used to the government teet, indoctrinate their children into an inferiority complex and perpetual angst. They did it to the black family, now they are importing more.
This is why they are dead set against the wall, but are ok with security. It is also why I changed my stance on the wall. A wall keeps them off of US soil. "Security" allows them to have kids in the US while they are "processed."
Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:02 am to SoulGlo
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A wall keeps them off of US soil. "Security" allows them to have kids in the US while they are "processed."
True Soul, and its also why the "separation of mammacita from her children" mantra was born. If we can say that at the border...we can certainly say that when she has been denied in immigration court three years later....and has two anchor babies. Even if we do kick mammacita out, she doles off the kid to a relative in the states to ensure the checks keep coming in.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 3:55 am
Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:50 am to GAAtty70
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cultivating a lot of new Republican voters.
Ok, GWB. Cultivating Republican voters doesn't mean shite when you cultivate 20% more Dems. "Hey! Let's let the other team score so we can get the ball back and score!" fricking stupid.
And yes, I deal with a lot of them too. Remember, a ton of black folks are personally conservative as well. That's going well for R's, isn't it.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:00 am to SoulGlo
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And yes, I deal with a lot of them too. Remember, a ton of black folks are personally conservative as well. That's going well for R's, isn't it.
Right again Soul.
Its the same argument with cali residents moving to Texas, they move due to taxes, yet inexplicably vote liberal for the same policies that ruined cali.
Same with the majority of the illegals arriving now. They come from dictator type countries, and vote for the party that will control their lives.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:38 am to Jax-Tiger
It is stupid that someone is a citizen just on the fact that they are born in the USA. IMO if their parents are here illegally then child born here should have no rights as a citizen. Or maybe grant them citizenship in name only but they have no voting rights. I might even support making the child a citizen if they parents are here legally. But in no way should we be rewarding illegal activity.
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