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re: If what Turkey is doing is so bad, where is the response from european nations?

Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:24 am to
100% this is a UN mission. Where is it?
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:24 am to
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If what Turkey is doing is so bad, where is the response from european nations?


Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29633 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:25 am to
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Because they are in NATO.


Yeah, but its not like being in NATO makes them our allies or anything. Right?
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:38 am to
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We cannot solve all the worlds problems nor protect everyone from bad things happening. There has to be an endstate, period.



amazing how dems are warhawks now
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:08 am to
It's more nuanced then that.

A strong Kurdish nation would be a stabilizing force and a better ally than Israel in the area.

But Turkey who is in NATO has a beef with Kurds and is using one of their Hezbollah like organizations as a reason to go in. We've also agreed that this organization is a terrorist group. But many Kurds don't agree and have allowed the group into their political processes.

Honestly this where a strong state department would be great but we haven't had one in a decade or so. So now some good allies have been thrown to the wolves instead of sitting down and trying to make a state solution because our other allies are both opportunistic and genocidal assholes.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31844 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:11 am to
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There are multiple reasons for the invasion, and the EU can't do anything, as Erdogan, who is a fairly astute politician, can use the agreement he made with the EU to house refugees against them, which is the ultimate trump card.

Checkmate
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4491 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:29 am to
Because it's not so bad
Remember there is an agenda behind everything
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
3990 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:07 pm to
It’s pretty simple. Either you want more military or less. It can’t be a “yea, but.” There are a lot of anti war people in power, including AOC, who talk endlessly about ending wars and bringing troops home, but are outraged here because we are abandoning Kurds. Well no shite. When we leave, we are always abandoning someone.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28468 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Yep! Where’s NATO’s peace keeping forces?!?!


Or the worthless pile of garbage called the UN?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70961 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:42 pm to
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A strong Kurdish nation would be a stabilizing force






You just having fun saying stuff and thangs?

The proposed Kurdistan involves 5 countries.

Go ask them to give up all that land and watch your stabilizing force go to town

Go back to work M.i.C.
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