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re: If Gender Is Changeable, Why Not Race? Matt Walsh
Posted on 9/15/20 at 11:54 pm to ShoeBang
Posted on 9/15/20 at 11:54 pm to ShoeBang
quote:well then you should have no problem with christianity in this particular regard. PLENTY of brilliant people have examined the "evidence" and become christians.
I just cannot come to accept something that presents with no evidence as somehow true or real
quote:in this day and age, there is no reason whatsoever for any person to be unable to give intellectual assent to the claims of christianity. not one. every so called objection to christianity has been answered about a thousand times over. any problem that exists is emotional. perhaps you haven't thought of it that way yet.
My brain is just wired differently I guess
quote:oh you have faith. it's just faith in something other than god. why is that?
because faith ain't gonna happen
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 11:55 pm to Revelator
I feel a vague undefinable feeling of enormous wealth which is never reflected in my bank account so maybe I should be able to demand that people accept me as a billionaire at places where I can buy things.
Yes reality is now accepted as fluid In the West but other countries don’t accept this nonsense so they will likely overtake the west because they prefer to live in the real world.
Yes reality is now accepted as fluid In the West but other countries don’t accept this nonsense so they will likely overtake the west because they prefer to live in the real world.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 11:59 pm to ShoeBang
quote:that is absolutely not biblical.
That's the one thing the Catholics got right. Tithing is not required
quote:you're not giving it to another person. you are demonstrating to god that you understand it wasn't yours to begin with.
while giving another man 10% of their earnings
quote:no person saying that is doing so from a biblical standpoint
The whole "I need your money to get you to heaven"
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:12 am to ShoeBang
quote:and what would be evidence to you?
I have never seen any concrete evidence of any of the miracles he was said to perform
quote:here's a book that will help clear up that misconception
all the cool magical shite happened thousands of years
quote:does not mean the account is false and the bible is full of eyewitness accounts, btw
Hearsay
quote:none of that equals false.
a book written and re-written and re-translated numerous times over a 2k year period
quote:consider that checked off. all of that was taken care of nearly 2 centuries ago
unless there is a religion that is willing to include all the proper books of the bible
quote:look into gettier counterexamples and the epistemic justification/warrant for belief. your evidence was faulty. evidence for the crucifixion and resurrection is exponentially more warranted as is the evidence for god's existence
I had an easier time believing in Santa and the Tooth Fairy as a kid because there was "evidence" presented to me
quote:ugh. that is not exactly what the bible says on that topic
won't stop letting sons stop dying for the sins of their fathers
quote:who are these innocents?
dead innocents
quote:how do you know that it wasn't for the best that your family member pass away when they did? you don't. you're just making a judgment based on specious, myopic, selfish emotions.
I didn't want to ever have anything to do with him
quote:no such thing
a perfectly innocent child
quote:tragically misinformed
God created everything, which includes evil and sin
quote:the issue of suffering in life is really escaping you. god does allow suffering. why is he wrong for doing so?
Letting a kid get raped and die of AIDS in africa being one of his cooler repeat tricks over the last few decades.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:21 am to Gtmodawg
quote:if you've really studied theism, you would know the answer to this question. are pagan gods really ultimate, supreme beings are or they just anthropomorphic reflections of humanity? which one of them claims to be the ontologically maximally greatest being? in polytheistic settings, which ones are not part of an inherently contradictory system?
Which God
quote:again, there is a difference between truth and belief.
which unchanging truth?
quote:well that certainly isn't true of YWHW
one that has only been around about 2500 years
quote:completely false
Loads of folks existed before the Christian God
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:24 am to Gtmodawg
quote:the old god of the gaps. dragging that one out of the dustbin huh?
when unable to answer questions
quote:i honestly have no idea what you are talking about
Christians doubt the supposed omnipotence as much as any atheist...ask one, if you can tolerate such exercise, about their God being banned from public schools like some kind of pedophile...they will go OFF on a tear about how their God has been banned from public schools...because they know full well it is humanly impossible to carry a God, an entity they know full well does not exist, in their heart. If they did not know this fundamental truth they would have never tried to claim that their God could be banned from any of man's institutions....because it is not possible to ban the ideas that a man holds in his heart.
quote:again, what in the world is this? gravity is a natural phenomenon. the last time i checked, god is not. two totally different things
I do not need faith in gravity in order to accept gravity
you seem really mixed up
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:30 am to ShoeBang
quote:even some catholics would not agree with everything you listed. believe it or not, there are some catholics who say things that are not biblical. you should learn about martin luther and his pilgrimage to rome. sometimes, people will say things that are about their perspective on religious processes that have nothing to do with actual salvation
a priest told our sophomore level religion class
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:33 am to ShoeBang
quote:only one reason - love. god is love and there can't be love without an object to love. the bible is a love story about how god is pursuing every single person who has ever lived.
Why make the world?
quote:do you believe that suffering has no purpose?
experience what I have on earth
quote:no offense but you have a very warped view of what god wants from you
not following the rules
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:39 am to Gtmodawg
quote:what point are you trying to make? do you know ANYTHING about cs lewis' story?
Strange that the author did not initially mean to refute the absence of the Christian God but of some God somewhere
quote:this sentence has a double negative but i think you're saying that even atheists can know morality, which is silly. they think they can but they're being stupid and it's easy to demonstrate that.
I think it is a cop out to not conclude a mortal can not have a view of what a just world looks like
quote:what would be justice to you?
justice in the chaos of nature is unheard of
quote:you have no idea how wrong you are. atheists are the ones who give up. they pretend that an entire aspect of their existence just doesn't exist. it's so stupid
he simply gave up the quest
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:42 am to Gtmodawg
quote:prove that god is not verifiable. this ought to be good
God is not
quote:do you even know what faith is?
all that is required of them by their god is faith
quote:you just don't understand faith. at all
they lack the required faith
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:27 pm to Mister Falcon
quote:not that this has anything to do with christian salvation
who will rightfully suffer eternal damnation for their failure to not listen to their molesting, er, nurturing priests
quote:what does this even mean? you people
I especially feel bad for followers of other non-Christian religions in poor developing/third world countries, many of whom lived in poverty their entire existence, and mainly only had their faith to give them the strength to keep going, only to be granted with much harsher eternal poverty because they chose the wrong side
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:29 pm to Gtmodawg
quote:what is this incoherent babbling tripe?
So the unwashed masses below would get the message that God was watching them and capable of anything, including building a palace in an inaccessible location. Of course apologists will claim this was done by men to control the masses, and this is true, but they did so knowing there was no God to call them out on this abuse of human ignorance. The only way for organized religion to exist in any form is for there to be no omnipotent being who "loves" mankind...yet many will try to separate the two
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:38 pm to ShoeBang
quote:completely false. we are given the choice to make our own decisions. when we choose to go our own way, that is on us, not on god.
If you attribute all 'good' to God, then you must attribute all 'bad' to him as well
quote:if he did, you would be irate at him for curtailing your free choice. then here you're complaining that he didn't. he gives us free choice and then honors that choice (regardless of the outcome) which is the only moral thing to do.
if you were going to murder someone, he won't stop it
quote:so god is not allowed to permit suffering in life. explain why and how you know
he is rationing his supposedly endless power while your kid dies in a hospital
quote:fine. don't complain when you get your consequence. it sounds like you don't know what evil is
I don't want anything to do with an almighty who doesn't bother to try and stop the evil that he created
quote:uh, because you control what choice you make.
he already knows if I am going to heaven or hell, so why even give a shite
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:41 pm to bfniii
You just tied the world record with 11 consecutive posts in a thread. 
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:48 pm to ShoeBang
quote:what would be proof to you?
no one has ever told me or shown me anything to convince me that there is a god
quote:respectfully, your understanding seems grievously flawed
understand how I am supposed to be
quote:again, this is false. people made a choice and he issued a consequence, which is within his rights and they knew in advance about. that is not genocide.
I mean the dude has committed mass genocide multiple times if we are to believe scripture
quote:why should he have? how do you know we would be better off without it? you have no frame of reference to make any such conclusion because you only know this existence. you have no idea what it would be like to live without the possibility of pain or evil
Why didn't the all powerful being stop it?
quote:so you're innocent and god owes you, what? some kind of paradise? have you ever thought these things through at least a little? you are making conclusions about something you do not understand in the slightest
Which If a god chooses to punish me because the first dude he made fricked it all up?
quote:at this point, you should stop commenting on christianity. you are so lost on the subject it's astonishing. why don't you let someone get you straightened out before you keep saying idiotic things like this.
he tried to trick his own fricking sidekick into killing a son in god's as some sort of sadistic test
quote:should he have been made some other way?
Why make the kid who is born with AIDS?
quote:would that make you better? would that be better for you? would you ever grow as a person? no on all of those
why not spare this being he supposedly loves so much?
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:50 pm to Gtmodawg
quote:totally false. you don't know what faith is.
Faith and reason are incompatible
quote:that is NOT what "faith" is. my word. just say you're ignorant. it would save everyone some time.
reasonable belief but that is not an example of reasoning either. Faith is defined as as a set of beliefs not based on logical proof nor material evidence
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:54 pm to ShoeBang
quote:what makes you think god is limited by "genetics?"
genetic impossibility of there being only one woman and one man to start
quote:not necessarily
Someone fricked their mom/sister
quote:maybe to a stupid person
The story of adam and eve could not have happened
quote:says who? this is so hilarious. people who have only lived a few years in this one existence think they know better than god. and then they want to lecture believers on what god should and shouldn't have done. yeah, that's sensible
He should have started over
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:02 pm to Gtmodawg
quote:given that you are conflating two different things, your characterization is not the case
in a strict use of the word it is not
quote:it's amazing you think you're making sense when you say things like this. "proclaimed proof" lends epistemic warrant/justification to the belief.
do not realize that their proclaimed proof speaks more about their lack of faith than it does of their strength of faith
quote:and THERE is the crux of the problem. you are an armchair observer. you're like a baby with a mobile phone. you know it beeps and lights flash. it has shiny buttons to push. but you have no idea what you're looking at
watching people for 55 years
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:03 pm to LSURussian
quote:
You just tied the world record with 11 consecutive posts in a thread
Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:21 am to bfniii
quote:
PLENTY of brilliant people have examined the "evidence" and become christians.
Dead on!
One of my biggest problems with many Atheists (I used to be one) is the incredibly narcissistic attitude that "smart" people don't believe in God.
There are TONS of absolutely brilliant, creative people who are Christians.
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