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re: If both political parties are on the side of Labor, what does this mean for capitalism?

Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:25 am to
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:25 am to
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Missed this earlier.

Well said.


Indeed. He left out a key sub demographic that continuously enriches our discussions though.

That being the classical liberal masquerading as a libertarian. True right wing ideas make them uncomfortable, yet they are too intelligent, or too nauseated, to try to argue on behalf of actual left wing social and economic ideals, so they pretend to be libertarian, so that they can gate keep the right wing which they truly fear above all else.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42744 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:25 am to
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Played out to the end the result of The Shrubs ideas would be the US looking much like China.


Blackrock being the American CCP (im joking kinda)
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5605 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:25 am to
"His argument has been dead for multiple pages at this point."

The argument is for free markets and against government control and protectionism. Which way are you leaning?
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62147 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:27 am to
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Played out to the end the result of The Shrubs ideas would be the US looking much like China.


Yep. He's a puppet of American oligarchy.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40051 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:29 am to
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In fact "too big to fail" corporations shouldnt exist in capitalism.


Why not?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293231 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:29 am to
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True right wing ideas make them uncomfortable,


Like Free Markets?

Have you by chance ever looked at the pillars of conservatism? They deal with individuals and freedom. Not collectives and protection.

Individual Freedom
Limited Government
Fiscal Responsibility
Free Markets
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:29 am to
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The argument is for free markets and against government control and protectionism.


Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40051 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:30 am to
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The argument is for free markets and against government control and protectionism. Which way are you leaning?


Why don't the corporations simply enslave their labor force?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:30 am to
I’m not a conservative
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:31 am to
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You are a progressive.


I'm capitalist to the bone Shrub.

I also like American culture and have no desire to assist in it's demise.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293231 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:33 am to
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I’m not a conservative


That explains it.

Bernie and Liz should be your leaders then. They are all in on workers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293231 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:34 am to
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I'm capitalist to the bone Shrub.


Then you should understand the dangers of increasing protectionism.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5605 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:34 am to
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Why don't the corporations simply enslave their labor force?


That isn't a free market.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40051 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:35 am to
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That isn't a free market.



Says who?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293231 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:36 am to
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Why don't the corporations simply enslave their labor force?


That isn't a free market.


Its sad you had to explain that to them.
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
3397 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:36 am to
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Just to be clear, in this thread we have a lot of pretend right wingers wanting the masses to crush the capitalists.


If you don't like it, the investor/corporate class should form their own political party and outvote the rest of us

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5605 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:36 am to
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OBReb6


You are the one who said this eariler in the thread.

"The only absolute true free market in theory would be open borders globalization"

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:37 am to
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Then you should understand the dangers of increasing protectionism.


The fact you think I do not is as ridiculous as your posts promoting an absolute free for all.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:37 am to
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That explains it.

Bernie and Liz should be your leaders then. They are all in on workers.


I’m not a conservative because conservatism does not exist anymore. And the version of America I want to conserve is so far in the rear view mirror it would require an American Francisco Franco to achieve it.

But sure, you can equate that to Bernie and Liz in your simple mind
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 11:38 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62147 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:37 am to
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That isn't a free market.


You just contradicted this statement:

quote:

The argument is for free markets and against government control and protectionism. Which way are you leaning?
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 11:38 am
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