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re: If 70% of Americans think abortion should be legal is is dumb to be trying to ban it?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:23 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:23 am to AggieHank86
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Carpetbagger.
Hold on, my folks got off the boat from Bavaria, Germany at the turn of the century. That doesn't qualify as carpet baggers.
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:24 am to BugAC
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And for those of us whose family came here after the civil war?
Or had no slaves.
I'll bet Hanks Great Grandpappy had a stable of slaves, which led to his heirs being softer than a babies arse.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Only about 25% of families at any given time, true.
Most Southerners never owned slaves, Gomer.
Now, do the math. If you are a Southerner, whose family has always married other Southerners, you have 256 direct ancestors who were alive at approximately the time of the Civil War. What are the chances that none of those 256 people owned a slave? Vanishingly small.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:30 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:25 am to MAADFACTS
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He’s wrong in thinking I care if the republicans take other people’s rights way
What rights do you not have?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:26 am to TrueTiger
quote:It was a joke, Tiger.
Carpetbagger.quote:
Hold on, my folks got off the boat from Bavaria, Germany at the turn of the century. That doesn't qualify as carpet baggers.
but, if your family has now been here for four or five generations, the likelihood is pretty good that at some point they married into an antebellum Southern family.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:28 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:26 am to BugAC
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And for those of us whose family came here after the civil war?
You’ll never be real southerners
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:27 am to MAADFACTS
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You’ll never be real southerners
I'm good with that.
Whats a real southerner?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:29 am to AggieHank86
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but, if your family has now been here for four or five generations, the likelihood is pretty good that at some point they married into an antebellum Southern family.
yeah, there is the other half that wore the gray 
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:31 am to TrueTiger
The natives in Texas thought white Texans were the laziest humans on earth, because they required slaves to do their work.
I loathe a slave owner, and their descendants if they still profit.
I loathe a slave owner, and their descendants if they still profit.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What rights do you not have?
I have all my rights. No one is trying to take rights away from me. My point is that he’s right that republicans do want to take away women’s legal rights
to abortions, gay people’s right to get married, people who want to smoke pots ability to choose to do so. With the exception of abortion, which i am against, none of these causes affect me. If the republicans pass a law that says gay people’s marriages are invalid, and you aren’t gay yourself, why would you care?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:34 am to MAADFACTS
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republicans do want to take away women’s legal rights
to abortions
There is no legal right to an abortion.
If 555 of a state wants it banned, it should be banned.
If 55% want it legal, it should be legal.
You can move to another state.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:35 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:35 am to TrueTiger
quote:that is what is so funny about these debates. My family (now) is as “Texan” as they come. My first ancestors came here in 1832.
yeah, there is the other half that wore the gray
I suppose that that also makes us “Southerners“ in the sense of Civil War history at least.
Yet my paternal maternal great grandmother and her family came to Texas from Illinois after the war. Her father fought for the north, just as my paternal paternal family fought for the South.
at this point in history, I think that the person who has all 256 of those ancestors as antebellum southerners is very much the exception.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:36 am to AggieHank86
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they married into an antebellum Southern family.
How many southern families do you think owned slaves in Louisiana? Just a percentage.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Some places there is such a right, and some places there is not. Federalism.
There is no legal right to an abortion.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:38 am to BugAC
quote:based upon immigration patterns antebellum, my guess would be that Louisiana percentage was lower than the southern average. Maybe 15% at any given time? I would not be surprised at all, if the percentage is a bit lower.
How many southern families do you think owned slaves in Louisiana? Just a percentage.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:39 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm good with that. Whats a real southerner?
Someone who has inherited our past. The decadents of slave owners, the descendants of slaves, and the hillbillies and poor white trash. The stock that Robert E Lee and Martin Luther King come from. The stock that produced country music, blues, rock n roll, and every other genre of music that makes this country interesting. If when you were a child you never imagined what it would be like to be your ancestors, and pictured them standing in Seminary ridge listening to the drums and the cannons and digging deep to follow Marse Lee to hell, or, alternatively never imagined your ancestors looking north and planning an escape and weighing freedom and the unknown against home and the indignity of slavery, or wondering if you can outrun the dogs; I’m sorry you are fundamentally different than the people who’ve been here for generations. You are an immigrant, and we may accept you and love you, but you are not us
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no legal right to an abortion.
There was two years ago and for forty years before that. I also think abortion should be illegal, and I think it should be illegal at the national level. But people definitely feel that they losing a right they had just a few years ago.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:41 am to MAADFACTS
quote:Marse Robert.
Marsh Lee
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:43 am to AggieHank86
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Marse Robert.
I didn’t say I’m smart. Thank you for the correction
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:51 am to MAADFACTS
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There was two years ago and for forty years before that.
It was overturned because it was incorrect.
You can live in any state you choose, find one where you can legally abort all of your 2am mistakes.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:52 am
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