re: "I was imprisoned for my beliefs. I want to give the government more power"

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Chelseas political views are of a child. Simplistic and silly.

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Agreed, but his name is Bradley and he's still playing dress up at his age.
Sad.

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You responded that we should "kick them out of the community". What would this look like in America in 2020?

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How does kicking someone out of their own home and property that has been long ago paid in full, and then maybe even sticking them in prison for not handing money over to the government, look in 2020?....oh wait!

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Gimme dat traditionalism/monarchism.

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LOTS of American “conservatives” fall into that category.

We draw our lines for team allegiance roughly along the Y-axis, so those folks end up voting with limited government conservatives and libertarians such as myself, when ... ideologically ... they are aligned much more closely with the American Left (which largely resides in the right half of the southwest quadrant).

If we randomly assigned our team colors instead along the X-axis, those “traditionalists” would belong to the same political party as the bulk of the American Left, in opposition to us limited government folks.

On that graph, I chart a bit below the L in American Libertarianism. If some rare Dem charted at the “m” in “Left Libertarianism” and were running against a GOP candidate down in the Monarchism/Traditionalism segment, I would certainly consider voting for the Dem, because team color is not as important to me as ideology..

I have just never seem such a race. Most races feature a Dem near the “m” in American Liberalism against a GOP candidate near the “e” in American Conservatism, and that GOP candidate is marginally closer to my beliefs so I almost always vote GOP.

NOT because I agree with that candidate on everything or disagree with the other on everything. One of them is simply correct on more issues.

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How about the 50% that contribute nothing? What is their implicit and obligated share?

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That question has zero bearing upon the issue of whether taxation is theft, which is the only issue I am discussing at the moment.

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"Theft" is a word with a definition.

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Thats nice.
Its also a descriptor for an action.

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“I choose to drive on a tollway. They want me to pay? Thievery!!!!”

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A nonsense analogy imo.

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Can't you see that the "taxation is theft" mantra works to erode the foundational belief you stated above?

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Not really. You're leaving out the part about those in that community that can not pay money are mandated to community service for some measure of time..that being part of that foundational belief.

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That question has zero bearing upon the issue of whether taxation is theft, which is the only issue I am discussing at the moment.

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'K.
Your comment from a few minutes ago.

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Only a handful of states designate the deaths of executed inmates homicides, Kahan said today. Most carry designations denoting the death was a result of an execution.

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