re: I still don't understand what the big deal is.

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He squeezed a foreign country by threatening to not give our us tax dollars to try to get them help his political campaign against the leading candidate.

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Nah. That didn't happen. But you know that already, don't you? Just makes y'all all warm in your nether regions to think that that is what happened, and, by golly, you gots him!

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You don’t give a shite because it’s Trump.

You would give a shite had it been Obama.

Since it’s Trump, you will say, ‘I wouldn’t care who did it, including Obama.’ And it’s because you are a partisan hack like me, like 99% of the board, and any other poster who claims otherwise and just starts a thread expecting to be upvoted.

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There’s no comparison to Trump’s shite talking and Obammy’s undeniable corruption while he was POTUS.

You TDS fueled Dims conveniently forget about Obammy’s IRS Scandal, the authorization from Hussein to spy on journalists, the Fast and Furious debacle, shipping pallets of cash to a sworn enemy of the United States (Iran) to finalize a fricked up nuclear agreement, VA mess, his stupid Syrian “Red” line, Benghazi, fricking DACA, the release of Gitmo terrorists, etc.

You want some really good reading material? Go check out Obammy’s pardons and commutations baw! Several pardons were ME actors, pardoned after stealing restricted high tech equipment and intellectual property.....oh yeah, the most scandal free administration in the history of the Swamp as reported by the Opposition Research Media/DimMedia!

I’m sorry, I guess I wasn’t clear.

I meant that the poster would agree that investigating 2016 election interference and Biden getting Shokin fired would involve a candidate in the 2020 election.

So you would say those things Obama did should be investigated and punished?

Before anyone flies off the handle, my point is that I hate the lot of them, I wish that all of things got investigated, all the stuff Republicans do got investigated, to the point that being a career politician sounds like the worst job on the planet. Like you can’t even jack off in a Capitol Hill bathroom without someone on the other side of the aisle calling you a pervert.

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I meant that the poster would agree that investigating 2016 election interference and Biden getting Shokin fired would involve a candidate in the 2020 election.

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That's the problem though. Trump wanting the foreign interference in the 2016 election investigated has been spun as "pressuring Ukraine for dirt on Biden". If the Ukraine has evidence of interference in the 2016 election, and Biden, Jr. gets rolled up in it, that's collateral damage. What the left and the media has done is spin it as the DoJ is targeting Trump's political opponents. If that's the case, what were Dems doing in the Ukraine to interfere with the 2016 election?

I think that argument is being made because they would say that the idea that Crowdstrike is in Ukraine has been debunked, and Trump involving his personal attorney would make it appear that it is not a law enforcement issue, but rather a political one.

I’m just answering the question, no need to freak out.

Not freaking out. Anything Barr does is met with, "He's not Trump's personal attorney!!". Giuliani gets sent to get info and it's, "OMG!! He's using his personal attorney!!".

Trump has said he wants to get to the bottom of the election interference, yet when he tries to do that,the left freaks out and screams about it. They claim everything has been debunked, yet pee their panties if someone checks up on their claims. To use a lefty line, "If you have nothing to hide, why worry about it?"

Just echoing what I said in another thread, that if someone is giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, and the request was on the level, involving Giuliani was the primary mistake. You can see how his involvement makes the request seem shady right?

Additionally, I think it was davyjones that said earlier that the smart thing to do would have been to come out early and say “Yeap, I withheld the aid because I don’t believe Ukraine is making good on guarantees to combat corruption.” There really isn’t anything that anyone could say about that. Identifying the specific issues he wanted investigated, instead of sticking to “corruption” also gives it a bad look. If other pieces of testimony are to believed, like Taylor saying that Trump wanted Ukraine to announce the investigations publicly, that would further complicate things.

I agree 100% that there is almost no way to prove any other intent than legitimate besides Trump himself stating otherwise. I don’t think that means that complaints shouldn’t be investigated, but I don’t think any of this (investigation) has occurred in an appropriate manner.

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I don't give a shite if Trump was using his power to investigate a legitimate issue with Biden. That's his job.

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Correct. Democrats howled (falsely) that trying to stop (a fake) an investigation into foreign corruption and influence was “obstruction” crime. Apparently, starting an investigation is a crime too. Literally no case where Trump isn’t a criminal in their minds.