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re: I have yet to hear an adequate explanation of why "America First" is bad

Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:09 am to
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23838 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:09 am to
Was this shopped?

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141718 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:23 am to
Weird how you lied and then found some kook podunk candidate that didn't win to support your claim.

Rick Tyler is a POS.

Why did you lie when you could have just used some podunk candidate with insane views?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31657 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:26 am to
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establishment cucks.


One-world globalists aren't all establishment. (although watching your country get fricked is a prima facie cuckolding)
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23838 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:27 am to
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Weird how you lied and then found some kook podunk candidate that didn't win to support your claim.

Rick Tyler is a POS.

Why did you lie when you could have just used some podunk candidate with insane views?
How did I lie? I just found an image. Honestly didn't know it was shopped
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141718 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:31 am to
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Honestly didn't know it was shopped


Where did you get the photo? Why are you so rabid that you didn't verify that is was fake or not?

Your argument about whites being racist really is weakened when you make up stuff.

Again, why did you lie? I think you claim to be above the fray. Are you?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:53 am to
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I have yet to hear an adequate explanation of why "America First" is bad



Depends on your definition.

To a progressive, it's bad because they exalt egalitarianism and equality above all else. Those ideas permeate through their entire culture. Therefore placing anyone or any group of people above any other is bad. unless that group is the lowest on the chain, then it's ok to lift them above those higher on the chain.

Neo Cons believe it's bad because to them America first means "stop fighting endless wars for other countries." since neocons believe that life works like a board game, they convince themselves there is an evil dragon around every continent. An evil dragon that is somehow threatening the jews, which is also somehow threatening Americans, whose sole job it is to protect jewish people.

Free traders and capitalists hate the term because it seems to be tied at least somewhat to the concept of protectionism and regulations that will raise prices for the arbitrary purpose of building some trinket in America instead of a cheaper location abroad. Protectionism destroys wealth creation.

So there you have it.

Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23838 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:17 pm to
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Weird how you lied and then found some kook podunk candidate that didn't win to support your claim.

Rick Tyler is a POS.

Why did you lie when you could have just used some podunk candidate with insane views?


And you'd still vote for him because of the R besides his name
Posted by tigerbecco
Montana
Member since Oct 2017
32 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:58 pm to
There is no explanation, they want us in the new world order. They don't believe in American exceptionalism. We seem to ignore what is in our own backyard way to often.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:57 pm to
Only bad if you hate the country
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35838 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:01 pm to
Because countries shouldn't exist, it's about the globe.

We are all Americans...North and South Americans...African-Americans, Chinese-Americans.

It's racist and xenophobic to protect your citizens when we live in a global community where all cultures are equal.

America First implies that America is better than everyone else and we should ignore the plight of failed nations.

We need to be not only the investor's of underprivileged nations but the cops of the world.

#Americafirstprivilege

Trump is making Americans stop checking their privilege.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141718 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:21 pm to
Why stop lying now?

Btw, i could not vote for him even if i wanted. No busing by the Florida independents.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:23 pm to
quote:


To a progressive, it's bad because they exalt egalitarianism and equality above all else. Those ideas permeate through their entire culture. Therefore placing anyone or any group of people above any other is bad. unless that group is the lowest on the chain, then it's ok to lift them above those higher on the chain.

Neo Cons believe it's bad because to them America first means "stop fighting endless wars for other countries." since neocons believe that life works like a board game, they convince themselves there is an evil dragon around every continent. An evil dragon that is somehow threatening the jews, which is also somehow threatening Americans, whose sole job it is to protect jewish people.

Free traders and capitalists hate the term because it seems to be tied at least somewhat to the concept of protectionism and regulations that will raise prices for the arbitrary purpose of building some trinket in America instead of a cheaper location abroad. Protectionism destroys wealth creation.


This post is golden, but the last paragraph should be put in a platinum frame and marked as the REAL answer to this question
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:50 pm to
Do you really want an answer, or are we jerking?

The short answer is that America, as the shining city on a hill, shouldn’t just be a place for people to reach. It should be an aspiration. And where people aspire to our way of life, we ought to be there to help them reach it.

It’s all a lot more complicated than that, but it’s essentially what the Cold War was about.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:51 pm to
Calls to "civic nationalism" or patriotism are "racist".

The Left wants cultural nationalism.....for everybody but white Christians.

That's what identity politics are, and that's why I've embraced it. Go white people.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53836 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:12 pm to
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From what I can tell, the belief that it is "bad" is held by people that see borders as nothing more than lines on a map.


it sounds selfish...

Liberals are uncomfortable with being a great country...

to them it's unfair
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