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re: "I didn't need to do this"

Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Wolfy782
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:01 pm to
Douche Terry tries so hard.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12070 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:02 pm to
Swine flu wasnt an immediate emergency either.

Drugs and human trafficking daily is a pretty big emergency, for which emergency declarations have been in place for several years alrdy.

Enjoy the L pal
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48325 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:03 pm to
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Like the original travel ban?


Sure. How did the courts handle that one?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48325 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:04 pm to
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When did you and Rob realize that you support extra-congressional end run bogus executive actions that "didn't need to be done"?


Yawn. Border security is actually one of the things I encourage more government on. And congress constitutionally delegates the authority that Trump is now using. It isn’t an end around just because you don’t like it.

And as for the “didn’t need to be done” line....it has been explained a dozen times and you still don’t get it. I feel like Tom Hanks talking about missing the cutoff man....

This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:06 pm to
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This is such a dumb talking point. They at least had to have been emergencies AT THE TIME they were implemented.


Uh... what was the emergency with Iran sir?


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If there was never an emergency none of them would have been approved.


There is but ONE person that approves a NE... the president. Dumbass....

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So that's a REALLY stupid talking point.


Bless your heart.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Drugs and human trafficking daily is a pretty big emergency, 

Yeah and the most efficient way to counter act that would be to hire more customs at legal ports of entery. The vast majority of human trafficking, illegal drugs, and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (people overstaying visas vastly outweighs people who corssed the border) comes through legal ports of entry. Customs is a JOKE.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:07 pm to
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I feel like Tom Hanks talking about missing the cutoff man....

Dottie dropped the ball on purpose
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Uh... what was the emergency with Iran sir? 


You are being purposefully ignorant or are fricking oblivious to world history if you had to ask that question gtfo troll.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:08 pm to
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It isn’t an end around just because you don’t like it.


How is it not an end around? He went to congress and asked for the money and they didnt give it to him. Then he decided to call for a NE to get the money.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
13540 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Precedent would also require an actual emergency, which currently does not exist at our border.



Which is more of a "national emergency," millions of illegals in this country with more coming in every day, human trafficking, and drugs crossing our open border areas

-or-

Flint, Michigan's drinking water


That's just one of many active national emergencies. Trump's certainly meets the criteria.

Like I said before, don't be stupid.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48325 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:09 pm to
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So we both agree that there's at least 3 different occasions where congress has addressed this situation, based on you saying "have you read any of them". This was the argument right up until you changed the goalposts to "you so ignorant, you ain't read shite"


Your argument is that it was addressed because of those three bills, which you clearly didn’t read. If you had, it would be clear as day that it wasn’t addressed. You are spouting the false narrative about the 25 billion dollars is all I needed to see to know you hadn’t read it. Educate yourself then come back.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48325 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:10 pm to
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I did and if the SCOTUS decides it's not an emergency then it doesn't get approved. Pretty simple.


Then why did you bring up approval of funding and approval of other emergencies? Which ones are you referring to? Can you point me to the votes on funding or the supreme court’s decisions?

Of course the Supreme Court has final say...but that isn’t what you were arguing in your first two ignorant posts.

This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12070 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:11 pm to
agree that there needs to be focus on other ports as well.

Luckily Trump’s demand for border security resulted in additional funds being allocated for things such as ports of entry.


But these issues also occur at the border. Stating they occur elsewhere also does not reduce seriousness of issue at border.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48325 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Dottie dropped the ball on purpose


You mother fricker. Meet me at sonic!



Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:13 pm to
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And as for the “didn’t need to be done” line....it has been explained a dozen times and you still don’t get it
No, it's been awkwardly deflected into "cuz muh congress didn't do their job", which, of course, only proves the original point

If you take an action that you "didn't need to do", you weren't in an emergency

That is an absolute

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It isn’t an end around just because you don’t like it. 
Correct, it's an end run because he's a lame duck with no juice in Congress

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73444 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:15 pm to
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That is an absolute

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:17 pm to
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Like I said before, don't be stupid.



That's like asking water to not be wet.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48325 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:17 pm to
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How is it not an end around?


He is using a congressionally delegated power for an enumerated purpose. It’s the precise reason the power exists. The fact that Trump attempted to reach a bipartisan solution without excercising his current power does not negate that power.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Your argument is that it was addressed because of those three bills, which you clearly didn’t read. If you had, it would be clear as day that it wasn’t addressed. You are spouting the false narrative about the 25 billion dollars is all I needed to see to know you hadn’t read it. Educate yourself then come back.
Was money going to be used for the wall on those bills or not? Everything I read said yes...perhaps you have a source I can't find?

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You mother fricker. Meet me at Sonic!
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:21 pm to
Why is the Emergency just now starting? Where was this emergency 3 years ago when first elected?
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