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re: Hypothetical: Could the USSC Mandate Voter ID in Every State?

Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:40 pm to
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that people aren't saying they are technically able to do it, but their decisions have/can by effect.


They cannot create laws.

They can only judge laws already created.

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:40 pm to
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I also understand SCOTUS overturned the vote of the people


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I understand our govt just fine.


Apparently not the function of the USSC
Posted by HagaDaga
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:41 pm to
You really do have find it difficult to think outside of the box in your arguments. Understanding the point of the "hypothetical" exercise.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:41 pm to
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If they haven't realized how often they look dumb and are wrong, they haven't really figured much out.


Well, of course. Everybody's dumb except you.

Here's what Google has to say about insufferable narcissists like you:

[quote]Yes, narcissists are fundamentally insecure, with their grandiose behavior often acting as a defense mechanism to mask deep-seated feelings of inadequacy, fragility, and low self-esteem. While they project an image of superiority, this act is used to shield themselves from intense self-doubt and fear of being unmasked. [/quote]

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:42 pm to
The dynamic duo of Karla and fatkid is definitely entertaining tf out of me right now.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:42 pm to
So the people of CA didn't vote against gay "marriage," and SCOTUS overturned it and by effect made it "legal" nationwide?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:45 pm to
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They cannot create laws.
no shite Sherlock. Yet somehow their ruling essentially overturned plenty of state laws, forcing states to accept gay "marriages".
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:45 pm to
There is no logical opposing argument to voter ID. Period
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:50 pm to
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Understanding the point of the "hypothetical" exercise.


How can the USSC "create" a law mandating Voter ID without a legislatively-created statute to get there?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:51 pm to
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Well, of course. Everybody's dumb except you.

I didn't say that. There is at least one other intelligent person posting ITT
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:52 pm to
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Yet somehow their ruling essentially overturned plenty of state laws,

Declaring laws unconstitutional is the literal opposite of creating laws.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:57 pm to
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You guys kill me.


What I said is correct. Obamacare was only able to exist because of SCOTUS. The law that was passed by Congress was not a tax. SCOTUS imagined something that was not passed by Congress.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:57 pm to
I don't know. havent thought of it really. If I did I would have laid it out in my original post. What I do know is that if figured out and done right, a SCOTUS ruling can do essentially do it.

For someone that touts his legal skills, you'd think you'd be able to concoct up a plan. Like it or not, a good lawyer would at least be able to come up with his opponents plan.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 8:58 pm
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:00 pm to
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Declaring laws unconstitutional is the literal opposite of creating laws.

And yet states had to start legally recognizing gay "marriages". So went from not legal to legal. Crazy it's like something defacto created a law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476578 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:03 pm to
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For someone that touts his legal skills, you'd think you'd be able to concoct up a plan.


The lawyers who try to be clever like that end up looking like absolute idiots 99%+ of the time. That's more movie stuff.

Even the novel/creative legal theories that end up being successful are likely the progeny of the origination of the actual novel/creative idea and there are years/decades of failure prior to the success.

However, this one seems like more of an impossibility, as there is no mandate for national voter ID in existence currently. And, given the nature of the action (a mandate), I don't see a way for a court to create that mandate but-for a legislative action in the area to judge to get there.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:03 pm to
I guess SCOTUS can decide that it's unconstitutional for a non-citizen to vote, and the only way to confirm that is by every to show that proof via an ID confirming it.

See that's how it can get done, and essentially create a "law".

Thanks for the assist dude.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476578 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:07 pm to
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And yet states had to start legally recognizing gay "marriages".

Because their laws making that illegal were ruled unconstitutional.

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Crazy it's like something defacto created a law.

It's literally the opposite.

You're just framing it poorly to mold the facts to fit your argument.

If the law was unconstitutional, it should have never had any legal effects and should have been void. There was no legal legitimacy prior to recognition of the illegality/unconstitutional status. Your framing presumes that legitimacy to present some status that was changed, when, legally, there was never any legitimacy or status as it was void.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476578 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:08 pm to
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I guess SCOTUS can decide that it's unconstitutional for a non-citizen to vote,

This is already the law

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and the only way to confirm that is by every to show that proof via an ID confirming it.

This is the mandate that can't happen from the court organically/exclusively

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See that's how it can get done,

But it can't happen in that manner
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49872 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:27 pm to
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At lease my wife and I both finished middle school and know better than to think the USSC can pass federal law


Then explain what the USSC did regarding gay marriage, you liitle midget.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:45 pm to
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What I said is correct. Obamacare was only able to exist because of SCOTUS. The law that was passed by Congress was not a tax. SCOTUS imagined something that was not passed by Congress.


You just don't want to get it, man. I can't help you anymore.
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