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re: Hypothetical 2: Should a known ISIS sympathizer, who is a US Citizen, be able to buy a gun

Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

For added effects, this person is on the Do Not Fly List.

As long as these people are placed on that list by due process, you know, with evidence n shite.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:32 pm to
I get it Lou, this is a tough question for you.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:32 pm to
You asked if a known isis sympathizer on the no fly list should own a firearm. There’s only a handful of reasons you would ask such a stupid question. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were attempting to play a gotcha game. I was wrong. You’re just stupid.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:33 pm to
What’s the gotcha answer smarty pants?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:35 pm to
Do you think we should limit the rights of an entire populace because of any potential risk, no matter how statistically insignificant?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:35 pm to
What about ISIS boy’s due process rights?

Should his Second Amendment rights be violated simply because he’s visited certain websites and espouses a certain worldview?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:36 pm to
It’s an interesting question in that should the criteria that gets you on a no fly preclude you from buying a gun if you are a US citizen.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:37 pm to
No. We should hang them. You like ISIS? You get the rope
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Visited ISIS websites, post anti US rants on known jihadi websites. Internet history of anti-US websites and videos.



If a liberal wants to own a gun, let them try to pass the background. Simple yes.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:38 pm to
I’m not sure. Flying isn’t a constitutional right, but we’ve deemed this home bred ISIS sympathizer a big enough threat where they can’t even fly so you tell me?...
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:41 pm to
Are they actively supporting ISIS? Are they an American citizen?
Posted by Duane Dibbley
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:41 pm to
Well, if they are a mentally ill ISIS sympathizer they don't have to buy a gun,
The FBI will find them and offer them one (or a bomb) so your hypothetical has no merit.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37651 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:42 pm to
Freedom of movement, freedom of assembly, freedom to liberty is a right. So if the right to travel is a right there should be sufficient reason to ban you from owing a firearm. That said there should be a process for that unlike Civil Forefiture.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:43 pm to
Absolutely, slippery slope...
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:43 pm to
They’re not mentally ill, they just sympathize with ISIS. Who said anything about mental illness?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

I’m not sure. Flying isn’t a constitutional right, but we’ve deemed this home bred ISIS sympathizer a big enough threat where they can’t even fly so you tell me?.


If it isn't a right, how is that applicable to my question about limiting rights?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:45 pm to
Maybe it doesn’t, that’s why I posted the question in the OP.
Posted by Mulat
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:46 pm to
If you are not willing to Pledge Allegiance to our Flag and our Country,if you will not defend our Constitution, then absolutely NO

You are either with or against America

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66446 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:49 pm to
So if you are a US citizen but on the Do Not Fly list, would you be in favor of taking away their 2nd Amendment right?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:50 pm to
I don’t think it’s interesting at all. Anyone who says no, isn’t in favor of constitutional rights including due process. Georgie boy here posted this is a gotcha attempt for conservatives. A weak attempt at that.


This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 6:52 pm
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