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re: Hunter Biden Lawyers Impersonating Congressional Staff to Remove Derogatory Evidence
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:20 am to OceanMan
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:20 am to OceanMan
no, OM, I am saying that it would be ridiculous to just blindly except her recitation as being entirely accurate.
as far as I can tell, the only uncontested fact of this entire situation is that Bengels called the clerk and used her real name and that the clerks’s office called her back at her Latham phone number.
I would be very interesting to see the recollection of events from the first clerk (“Julia”) versus the second clerk (as yet unidentified).
as far as I can tell, the only uncontested fact of this entire situation is that Bengels called the clerk and used her real name and that the clerks’s office called her back at her Latham phone number.
I would be very interesting to see the recollection of events from the first clerk (“Julia”) versus the second clerk (as yet unidentified).
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 9:32 am
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:21 am to OceanMan
quote:
Ok, so you can make assumptions about the clerk, but making assumptions about the other side is not appropriate?
Welcome to his style. Does it all the time.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:24 am to AggieHank86
quote:
All it proves is that some people form opinions without obtaining all of the facts.
Like believing the Latham lawyers because of your partisan nature and dismissing the person that has absolutely nothing to gain by lying, the clerk?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:28 am to cajunangelle
I respect the hustle. If my lawyers aren’t trying everything then what am I even paying them for? I’m not above cheating the court to stay out of jail, especially if I’m a degenerate, money-laundering heroin addict
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 11:00 am
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:31 am to BBONDS25
quote:Her recitation is verifiable. If she had not CORRECTLY identified herself, the clerk’s office could not have returned her call at her Latham phone number.
Like believing the Latham lawyers because of your partisan nature
This is the most-probative fact in this dispute. It is nearly-dispositive, IMO
quote:Where have I opined that the clerk lied?
dismissing the person that has absolutely nothing to gain by lying, the clerk?
based upon the facts that I have seen, my evaluation is that the situation does not involve anyone as an “evil doer“ or “liar.” There was simply a miscommunication. It happens.
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 9:38 am
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:31 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Latham provided her real name and her real phone number. If she were doing something nefarious, she would not have done that.
Like those that lied on the FISA applications? They used fake names when they lied to the court, right? Because nobody would use their real name when they lie to the court. Right? You’re so naive.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:46 am to BBONDS25
quote:Law enforcement and prosecutors shade the facts to get ex parte orders every day. Unfortunate, but true.
Like those that lied on the FISA applications?
And in an entirely different quantum from what we are discussing.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:47 am to BBONDS25
That's (D) ifferent
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:49 am to BBONDS25
quote:No! No!
You’re so naive.
Not naive!
Tolerant!
Tolerant of corrupt law.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:50 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Law enforcement and prosecutors shade the facts to get ex parte orders every day. Unfortunate, but true.
“Shade the facts?”
you litigating for the liars at the FBI now. I get your schtick is to be contrarian, but sometimes it makes you take bizarre positions. 
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:52 am to BBONDS25
Oops just a AggieHank misunderstanding.
They got caught with a hand in the cookie jar.
Biden’s attorneys called the debacle an “unintentional miscommunication.” They said the call was placed by an experienced administrative staff member at the firm, who is not a practicing attorney, and that they introduced themselves when making the call.
“We have no idea how the misunderstanding occurred, but our understanding is there was no misrepresentation,” wrote Matthew Salerno, an attorney on Biden’s legal team.
They got caught with a hand in the cookie jar.
Biden’s attorneys called the debacle an “unintentional miscommunication.” They said the call was placed by an experienced administrative staff member at the firm, who is not a practicing attorney, and that they introduced themselves when making the call.
“We have no idea how the misunderstanding occurred, but our understanding is there was no misrepresentation,” wrote Matthew Salerno, an attorney on Biden’s legal team.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:59 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Bengels is a licensed NY attorney.
Damn. That makes this even worse
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:07 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Her recitation is verifiable. If she had not CORRECTLY identified herself, the clerk’s office could not have returned her call at her Latham phone number.
She may have provided a Latham phone number, but what is at issue is whether she misrepresented who she represented.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:09 am to Wednesday
quote:Only way she could get those documents removed was to convince someone she was from Smith's office correct?
She may have provided a Latham phone number, but what is at issue is whether she misrepresented who she represented.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:17 am to Wednesday
Will Scharf
@willscharf
I am a former federal prosecutor, and I literally cannot believe what just happened in Hunter Biden’s tax fraud case.
Based on what has been made public, here is what I think the story is:
The House Ways and Means Committee, led by Chairman
@JasonSmithMO
, filed documents relating to their investigation of Hunter Biden’s criminal enterprise with the Court overseeing his tax fraud case, in which he is scheduled to plead guilty in a sweetheart deal tomorrow.
An attorney associated with Hunter Biden’s legal team contacted the court clerk’s office, falsely claimed to be part of the House Ways and Means legal team, and asked the clerk to pull the adverse filing for technical reasons.
The court figured out what happened, and is now demanding answers from Hunter’s team as to why they apparently lied to the court in what appears to be a desperate attempt to prevent evidence of his criminal enterprise from being put on the record in his tax fraud case.
This is not irregular; this is insane.
@willscharf
I am a former federal prosecutor, and I literally cannot believe what just happened in Hunter Biden’s tax fraud case.
Based on what has been made public, here is what I think the story is:
The House Ways and Means Committee, led by Chairman
@JasonSmithMO
, filed documents relating to their investigation of Hunter Biden’s criminal enterprise with the Court overseeing his tax fraud case, in which he is scheduled to plead guilty in a sweetheart deal tomorrow.
An attorney associated with Hunter Biden’s legal team contacted the court clerk’s office, falsely claimed to be part of the House Ways and Means legal team, and asked the clerk to pull the adverse filing for technical reasons.
The court figured out what happened, and is now demanding answers from Hunter’s team as to why they apparently lied to the court in what appears to be a desperate attempt to prevent evidence of his criminal enterprise from being put on the record in his tax fraud case.
This is not irregular; this is insane.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:32 am to Jbird
They’ve been in there for an hour and a half.
I don’t know how well that bodes for Hunter. It doesn’t seem like a cut-and-dried plea deal where papers are signed should take that long.
I don’t know how well that bodes for Hunter. It doesn’t seem like a cut-and-dried plea deal where papers are signed should take that long.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:34 am to Jbird
quote:
Biden’s attorneys called the debacle an “unintentional miscommunication.” They said the call was placed by an experienced administrative staff member at the firm, who is not a practicing attorney, and that they introduced themselves when making the call.
“We have no idea how the misunderstanding occurred, but our understanding is there was no misrepresentation,” wrote Matthew Salerno, an attorney on Biden’s legal team
Oh, well then. I guess that clears it all up!
Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:35 am to Godfather1
quote:Probably working out how to spin the Lawyer trying to get shite pulled.
They’ve been in there for an hour and a half.
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