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re: How pathetic does Obama look right now?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:41 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:41 pm to RD Dawg
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He was an unstable lunatic that was never "elected" by popular vote
Are you dumb? Iran has a parliamentary system of government - the Majles. They elected him by something like 70-10 to be PM and he was approved by the Shah.
Are you suggesting that Parliamentary systems aren’t democracies?
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and Iran and the ME was far better off with the Shah in power
British Petroleum was much better off with the Shah in power. In fact, our own CIA has admitted to the coup for the sole purpose of maintaining British Petroleum’s control over Iranian oil supplies.
Mossaddegh was a secularist and a civil libertarian. Iran was quickly moving into the first world when he got control of the government. The Majles, in defiance of the Shah, took significant steps to better civilize Iran by giving Mossaddegh the power to move control of the military away from the authoritarian Shah and under the control of the government. He reduced the size of the military and began a movement to better privatize land resources.
Once the Shah was reinstalled, he tightened his authoritarian grip across the whole country. After 1953, Iran had the highest rate of torture of its own citizens in the world.
The Shah strengthened the SAVAK - his secret police force that brutally oppressed any opposition to his reign. He reduced the power of the Parliament and centralized political power directly under his control and then institute horrendous economic and fiscal policies which destroyed the Iranian economy.
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:06 pm to Aubie Spr96
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The Obama administration is acknowledging its transfer of $1.7 billion to Iran earlier this year was made entirely in cash, using non-U.S. currency, as Republican critics of the transaction continued to denounce the payments.
LA Times.......
Stupid idiot
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:59 pm to texag7
The U of Houston
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 6:17 am
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:59 pm to texag7
An abomination of foreign diplomacy. Way to go Obama, to help Iran further enrich weapons grade uranium.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:07 pm to texag7
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How pathetic does Obama look right now?
About the same as before except older.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:46 pm to texag7
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How does obama look right now
He looks like he’s always looked. Just like Curious George.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:17 pm to texag7
Son of a bitch jug eared Muslim Kenyan born closet gay fella was as unAmerican as they come
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:24 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:here we go
Are you dumb?
I see you got all your little talking points in...good job!
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Are you suggesting that Parliamentary systems aren’t democracies?
Not unbelievably corrupt Parliaments.Read a little bro and find out most those folks found their way to "Parliament"and I use that term as loosely as possible
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The Majles, in defiance of the Shah, took significant steps to better civilize Iran by giving Mossaddegh the power to move control of the military away from the authoritarian Shah and under the control of the government. He reduced the size of the military and began a movement to better
Okay,just a modern day George Washington.God almighty,did you right his biography? Gotta love the revisionism
During the oil crisis, Mossadegh became very unpopular. Things were so bad that when it was clear that his now fractured party would not gain a majority, he cancelled parliamentary elections. In February 1953 there were mass demonstrations against Mossadegh
BTW Lets talk about his economy
Between 1951 and 1953 the index of wholesale prices rose by an average annual rate of 13.7 percent, and the general consumer prices rose by 8.2 percent (Table 2). Although traditional sectors of the economy, particularly those oriented toward exports, began to expand, the general economic stagnation and financial crisis continued unabated due to shortages of imported raw materials and spare parts (Mahdavy; Clawson and Sassanpour; see also AGRICULTURE; ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY; BARNAMA-RIZI; COMMERCE).
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After 1953, Iran had the highest rate of torture of its own citizens in the world.
Here ya go chief LINK
How it Gods name would anybody which countries had the "highest torture rates"? in 1953 no less
Cant wait for this answer
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economic and fiscal policies which destroyed the Iranian economy.
Do what?
Sustained growth and industrialization (1963-78). The period between 1963 and the start of the revolutionary upheavals in 1978 undoubtedly represents the longest period of sustained growth in per capita real income the Persian economy has experienced. During the 1963-77 period gross Domestic product (GDP) grew in real terms by an average annual rate of around 10.5 percent with the annual population growth rate of around 2.7 percent and placed Persia among the fastest growing of both developing and developed economies in the world
Not sure what God forsaken 3rd grade text book you are getting your facts from but ya really need to dig a little.Not your fault I suppose, it might be THE MOST distorted and misunderstood event in modern history
bottom line:Mossadech was going the way of the Shah MUCH sooner rather than later.Iran really didnt need our help in getting rid of him.The clerics or military were gonna take him out eventually
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:53 pm to RD Dawg
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Sustained growth and industrialization (1963-78). The period between 1963 and the start of the revolutionary upheavals in 1978 undoubtedly represents the longest period of sustained growth in per capita real income the Persian economy has experienced. During the 1963-77 period gross Domestic product (GDP) grew in real terms by an average annual rate of around 10.5 percent with the annual population growth rate of around 2.7 percent and placed Persia among the fastest growing of both developing and developed economies in the world
All on the back of increased foreign revenue from the sale of oil which never made its way to people of Iran. In the 1970s, the sale of nationalized oil accounted for over 70% of the Iranian GDP effectively making Iran a rentier state. And while this increased revenue helped develop the growing middle intelligentsia class in the urban areas, even this group saw the hard ceiling this underdeveloped economy created and were one of the groups that opposed the Shah.
Coupled that with social and political oppression coming from the regime, it made Iran ripe for revolution. Unfortunately, a group worse than the Shah led it.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:02 pm to bmy
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Cmon man. The christian god is definitely the same insecure, violent, and petty deity that exists in the islamic faith. I'm embarrassed that it's 2019 and there are still true believers in the US.
Not true.
You wouldn't dare say that in a Muslim dominated country.
You probably would not say that in some areas controlled by Muslims in the USA.
That is the difference in the teaching of Jesus vs the teaching of Muhammad.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:54 am to Nutriaitch
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How modern and Western Iran was prior to 1979 is completely and totally irrelevant to this particular issue.
You wouldn't have had the '79 revolution without our intervention and installation of the Shah. The 1979 extremist revolution was blow back from our stupid arse foreign policy. Do yall read?
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