How much of our current problems are from the education system?

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How different would this country look if most of the educators were conservative?

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And if prayer were allowed in public schools?

Know Jesus, know peace.

No Jesus, no peace.

I disagree. I think the issue starts at home. I hate to say this, but it’s never going to change.

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I disagree. I think the issue starts at home. I hate to say this, but it’s never going to change.

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But the bad ideas have to come from somewhere.

I don’t think the current desire for socialism can be blamed on bad parenting. These pink haired weirdos are going off to college and learning this bullshite IMO.

Most problems start at home. But... educational problems are because our system sucks.

We should allow the $ to follow the child and, we have to put like kids together. Not by race. The kids who want to learn, are taught school is important, need to be separated from the ones who are basically in daycare. That’s our main problem.

We need to stop mandatory education. Come up with programs for older teens that can’t/won’t finish high school and get the ones who will be nothing but criminals anyway out of there.

Rant over.

More specifically,

Teacher's Unions are the root cause of most of our problems.

I have said repeatedly on this site throughout the years that the issue is special education.

A “behavior modification plan” basically allows a student to be an a-hole with virtually no consequences.

My theory, many of the students become adults that have run in’s with law enforcement.

I have often wondered what percentage of these high profile cases involve belligerent suspects that were once designated as disciplinary “untouchables” as students.

It’s the one that choose not get an education while going to school...........

Interesting

My other theory is that we are seeing progressivisms logic course.

You fix most of the problems in society but “progress” still needs to be made which causes them to basically invent problems like systemic racism and climate change.

I just don’t think we will ever see a day when everyone says “welp things look pretty good, we probably don’t need to make anymore changes.”

Two job requirements for an administrator

1. You have to be effin stupid

2. You can’t think

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95+% of all educators are progressive nut jobs indoctrinating the youth. And they have been doing it for decades.

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I think that estimate is a bit high for educators. It might be closer to the mark for education administrators though, especially the higher into politics you go. Get into the federal level and look at the Restorative Justice programs which preach things like the predominance of group work or self-study class environments over lecture (even in STEM subjects). And then there's the "stop the schoolyard to prisonyard pipeline" bullshite which ends up just being students not being disciplined in order for administrators to make their discipline numbers look good.

Teachers generally get the brunt of the shite for the results of these programs but they usually aren't the ones implementing this crap. There are those, however, who do still scoff at the tried and true "sage on the stage" (lecturer style of teaching) but once many get a good, solid dose of the alternative they change their minds (at least from the many testimonials I've read).

The ones who still stick with it after that, they are the blind, party-loyalist types who will mix the Kool-Aid, drink it and then ask for more with a sincere smile.

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There is a quote that goes something like... “if you paid teachers a certain amount of money they would all be conservative”

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Doubtful.

I've been on a testimonials kick lately, reading teacher accounts of the profession from those who have been in the system for 10+ years. Especially those whose school has moved into some sort of RJ program.

Many seemed to be more of the classic liberal bent, but were not strong political types. They just wanted to teach kids. When these programs fail (and they fail miserably) it puts the teachers in an incredibly shitty place.

The kids are not disciplined so they run amuck and then the parents blame the teachers for the kids having such poor performance. The administration is pushing this entire shitshow so they end up only not supporting the teachers but are purposely hanging them out to dry ("we've looked at our records here in the office and see no complaints from Ms. Smith about ever having sent Little Timmy down here for any disciplinary reasons...").

While it may not turn the liberals into conservatives, it certainly doesn't make them warm up to liberal education policies any longer.

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How different would this country look if most of the educators were conservative?

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VERY!

Much of the social justice indoctrination inundation we see comes directly from the teachings of the Baby Boomer hippy crowd who are still trying to relive their glory days of being relevant (fighting the power of "the Man" during the Civil Rights movement). Being heavily into the more liberal arts, they slowly took over education and educational theory (some like to point back to Dewey at the early part of the 20th Century as their origin point, but going from his Pragmatism to Common Core Math is a massive fricking stretch).

To TL;DR it, imagine the pro-America philosophy of the 1950's with the technology of today but with the lack of racial animus being perpetuated by damned near every television show, streaming series, movie or newscast.