re: How can you claim to be inclusive when you call half of america backward?

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I fricking HATE the use of the word cuck

And, if I had to make a high guess, I've probably used the word snowflake on this board fewer than 10 times.............EVER and for very specific circumstances.

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Ditto. I find such rhetoric to be sophomoric. Not that I'm above crass humor or low hanging fruit every now and then, but usually there are far better/more witty ways to make my point. Or I'd rather just debate like an adult

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Ditto. I find such rhetoric to be sophomoric. Not that I'm above crass humor or low hanging fruit every now and then, but usually there are far better/more witty ways to make my point. Or I'd rather just debate like an adult

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Hell, I haven't used it yet, but I'm probably more likely to apply soiboy to someone and that's only because it literally has a connotation of a certain type.

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1.) Not nearly as egregious as the black vote

2.) That was far and away a high water mark for that demographic, whereas our voting breakdown was largely business as usual. It's a poor comparison on your part.

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70% is statistically significant. Very much so. It doesn't have to be as "egregious" for it to be significant and part of the discussion. So even if 2016 is an anomaly and not the continuation of a pattern (which I don't concede), then it still begs the question as to WHY? Why were so many asians turned off by what the Republican party had to offer in 2016. Isolating individual minority groups is self-serving for some arguments (see: ShortyRob's attempt to turn the entire thread into a piss on black folks party) but surely there must be a reason for these voting patterns in 2016. Do you have a take?

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I simply believe that it'd be healthier to see the voting tendencies of blacks more accurately reflect the values we tend to hold in our day to day lives, in addition to reflecting our varied socioeconomic distribution these days.

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I see what you are saying but I think the wounds of the past are still to near for certain "deal breakers" to be ignored. The characters on the far right make for an easy foil for black folks...

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but I resent the implication.

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Fair enough. It was in poor taste. Was just trying to poke you a bit.

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I live in a majority hispanic town, so I get to see that dynamic up close. And politicians here actually do have to fight for the hispanic vote. I work with several who are staunchly conservative (usually the ones who bust their asses or have legal immigrant family members), so dems can't just play the race card and run like they do with blacks.

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Funny part is that I'm going to live to see it.

And make no fricking mistake. I WILL be saying "I told you so" to any black person who whines about it.

Hell. fricking Dev thinks that because blacks vote as a monolith, they're MORE relevant. That's because for Dev...........everything comes down to white/black.

LOL.

Hispanics say hello. And they don't give two fricks about the white guilt card if you try it on them.

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Wrong again

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He can't help it.

He's admitted he isn't even ideologically pure liberal

But, all the dude sees is skin color.

He's been a racist on this board as long as I can recall. But, he doesn't realize it because he's convinced himself blacks can't be racist.

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The reasons laid out for black voting patterns use terminology such as "dem plantation" 

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Exactly what it is. You should not be offended for truth, but try to rise above being a voting chip.

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70% is statistically significant. Very much so. It doesn't have to be as "egregious" for it to be significant and part of the discussion.

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It's a mathematical outlier in their voting patterns, while ours is par for the course. You're comparing apples and oranges.

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even if 2016 is an anomaly and not the continuation of a pattern (which I don't concede)

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You would be better served by conceding this point (from a debate perspective). It is mathematically untenable.

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ShortyRob's attempt to turn the entire thread into a piss on black folks party

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Not what he (or I) have done in the least. Everything said has been factual. You're acting like he's just up in here saying "black people just suuuuuuuck!!!" or something stupid. Come on.

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surely there must be a reason for these voting patterns in 2016. Do you have a take?

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I gave my take several times already. Tradition, lack of due diligence, and the left hysterically doubling down on the identity politics rhetoric. That type of platform is inevitably going to resonate harder with minorities, which is precisely what Dems were banking on. Their problem is that in alienating white swing voters (the real catalyst behind Obama's two terms), they ceded more ground than they gained by pushing identity politics so hard.

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I see what you are saying but I think the wounds of the past are still to near for certain "deal breakers" to be ignored. The characters on the far right make for an easy foil for black folks...

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Few things to unpack here:

1.) If we as a demographic continue to allow ourselves to forsake wiser decisions about our future in favor of holding onto past wrongs, we will NEVER get ahead. Period.

2.) If you're talking about "wounds of the past," Dems have inflicted (and continue to inflict) tons of these. But we as a demographic turn a blind eye because they're willing to talk slick and pay for our vote (or at least give the appearance of more monetary assistance).

3.) Yes, there are stupid arse characters on the far right. They're well-complemented by loonies on the far left. Loonies who will drop us like a hot potato the minute we're no longer deemed politically expedient. Yet we give the latter a pass.

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Fair enough. It was in poor taste. Was just trying to poke you a bit.

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Understood I'm running on too little sleep to take much prodding very well, I'll admit Working a second job for a little while because Aggiebelle's company had to cut her pay a bit.

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It's a mathematical outlier in their voting patterns, while ours is par for the course. You're comparing apples and oranges.

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He's been provided the info. He knows this. It didn't support his theory.......so just said "frick it" and ignored it.

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You would be better served by conceding this point (from a debate perspective). It is mathematically untenable.

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He can't because he's racist. I know, that's harsh. But, it is what it is.

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Not what he (or I) have done in the least. Everything said has been factual. You're acting like he's just up in here saying "black people just suuuuuuuck!!!" or something stupid. Come on.

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Again, this is because he's conditioned to believe all non-agreement with him by a white person is because he's black.

You interjecting is fricking him up which is why, despite his apology, he tried to dismiss you initially. His primary imperative when confronted by people like you is to think "Uncle Tom". That way, he doesn't have to actually think about it.

TigerDev is black?!?!

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TigerDev is black?!?!

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