re: How are you remembering Union Soldiers that died in the Civil War

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Cheers!

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No. I barely missed going to Vietnam, and know people who fought and died there. I don't joke about soldiers who died. Sorry. It just isn't funny to me.

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In fairness, I understand wanting to troll and have fun. I don't blame you for that. People dying just isn't a good thing to troll about.

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At that time allegiance was to the state first, then to the 'united states' - they came into the union willingly and felt they could leave it if it no longer served their purpose.

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THIS!!!!! This is what the current day snowflakes don't understand about the Civil War. THIS is why Robert E. Lee and PGTB and others fought for the South.

Revisionists like to say it was ALL about the slavery aspect. I believe wars are fought over money (not slave money) and power. There was a 40% tax on the South and the North depended on that money to build up their industries.

Anyhow... Great Comments Bandit. Glad to see someone gets it.

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So you hate past American soldiers? I just wanna hear one of you Confederate sympathizers admit, just one time, you hate America. I know it brews deep within you. The most "patriotic" people are from the south, yet most of them hate the USA before 1900. I love America for all its glory. From Plymouth Rock until 2017. Can you say that?

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Nice diversion bro. You are ignorant of the facts, embrace it. I won't admit what you request because it is bullshite.

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We should be respectful and honor ISIS fighters for fighting and dying for what they beieve in. They're an enemy now, maybe a friend in 150 years. I know we think a lot differently of the Japs now

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Isis does not have an army. they are not a nation. They are terrorists.
Besides, we are talking about Americans, are we not?

Your attempt at degrading the south, and your mind conservatives, is shameful.


Families fought each other. Blacks fought freely on both sides.


It was a dark time in the history of this nation and the story should be told with accuracy and honor to all.

That my ancestors probably killed an arse load of them.

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The North lost a good number of soldiers after the Emancipation Proclamation because they did not want to fight for slaves freedom. Do we shun their deaths because of their stand?

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That is not true.

"When, early in the war, Gen. Fremont attempted military emancipation, I forbade it, because I did not then think it an indispensable necessity. When a little later, Gen. Cameron, then Secretary of War, suggested the arming of the blacks, I objected, because I did not yet think it an indispensable necessity. When, still later, Gen. Hunter attempted military emancipation, I again forbade it, because I did not yet think the indispensable necessity had come. When, in March, and May, and July 1862 I made earnest, and successive appeals to the border states to favor compensated emancipation, I believed the indispensable necessity for military emancipation, and arming the blacks would come, unless averted by that measure. They declined the proposition; and I was, in my best judgment, driven to the alternative of either surrendering the Union, and with it, the Constitution, or of laying strong hand upon the colored element. I chose the latter. In choosing it, I hoped for greater gain than loss; but of this, I was not entirely confident. More than a year of trial now shows no loss by it in our foreign relations, none in our home popular sentiment, none in our white military force, -- no loss by it any how or any where. On the contrary, it shows a gain of quite a hundred and thirty thousand soldiers, seamen, and laborers. These are palpable facts, about which, as facts, there can be no cavilling. We have the men; and we could not have had them without the measure."

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We honor all Americans who fought in a time of war and lost their lives.

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NOT for shooting at other Americans.


"This is essentially a people's contest. On the side of the Union it is a struggle for maintaining in the world that form and substance of government whose leading object is to elevate the condition of men; to lift artificial weights from all shoulders; to clear the paths of laudable pursuit for all; to afford all an unfettered start and a fair chance in the race of life. Yielding to partial and temporary departures, from necessity, this is the leading object of the Government for whose existence we contend.

I am most happy to believe that the plain people understand and appreciate this. It is worthy of note that while in this the Government's hour of trial large numbers of those in the Army and Navy who have been favored with the offices have resigned and proved false to the hand which had pampered them, not one common soldier or common sailor is known to have deserted his flag.

Great honor is due to those officers who remained true despite the example of their treacherous associates; but the greatest honor and most important fact of all is the unanimous firmness of the common soldiers and common sailors. To the last man, so far as known, they have successfully resisted the traitorous efforts of those whose commands but an hour before they obeyed as absolute law. This is the patriotic instinct of plain people. They understand without an argument that the destroying the Government which was made by Washington means no good to them."

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So your family is full of great Americans, and for a period of time, fought against great Americans. Pick up a history book. Confederates are not Americans. Plain and simple.
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Confederates were not Americans huh? The US government even recognizes them as American veterans. Who do you think supplied all of those tombstones in Confederate cemeteries with the angled tops? You are an ignorant troll and it is pretty evident that all you know about that war is what was spit out to you verbatim in a public school out of some biased textbook by some damn high school coach that wasn't even qualified to teach the history of that war. Brainwashed.