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re: How are Bundy's statements on negroes related to the ranch standoff with BLM?

Posted on 4/24/14 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 4:53 pm to
I can hardly wait to hear what he says at the RNC.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124085 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:01 pm to
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I can hardly wait to hear what he says at the RNC.


Maybe Clint Eastwood will moderate a Bundy-Rep.AlvinHolmes debate.

Talk about praying for some empty chairs!
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:19 pm to
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The Clarke County Controversy was ALWAYS about the BLM, Period. It was always purely, simply about the BLM threatening to geaux Waco/RubyRidge over a bunch of cows.


It was a BLM "land grab" that has morphed into the above once everyone realized Bundy hadn't a leg to stand on.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:17 pm to
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BLM threatening to geaux Waco/RubyRidge over a bunch of cows.


They should just wait until the cows leave to go to the store and just pick them up then.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79281 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:47 pm to
His case wasn't compelling before. People are striving, beyond credibility, to make his situation into a true property rights dispute with the federal government. It isn't.

It's a guy who makes an extralegal claim based on some made-up theory about who should control land in question. I hate government overreach, but this isn't a particularly good example.

And now, he's made all of his supporters look like backward racists.

Let's just be honest, he's an idiot. Listen to him try to articulate his views.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:15 pm to
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It's a guy who makes an extralegal claim based on some made-up theory about who should control land in question.


He tried to claim Pollard's Lessee V. Hagan (1845) apllied.

The only problem was that US v. Gardner had already shot that down ruling that Pollard's Lessee v. Hagan does not apply to land in Nevada.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124085 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:19 pm to
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It was a BLM "land grab" that has morphed into the above once everyone realized
quote:

cwill
Yours was a try, not a good try, but a try.

If the pipsqueak inappropriate militant BLM fricks hadn't threatened the lives of innocent citizens, this would have never """morphed""" into anything.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:25 pm to
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If the pipsqueak inappropriate militant BLM fricks hadn't threatened the lives of innocent citizens, this would have never """morphed""" into anything.


How did the BLM threaten them?

BLM Rangers were on Federal Land rounding up the cattle. Did they force the Bundys and their supporters to show up and oppose the execution of the court order?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124085 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:30 pm to
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How did the BLM threaten them?
With M-16's?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:34 pm to
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What on earth did Trayvon's school records have to do with the fact that he jumped a neighborhood watchman in the dark while looking in the windows of other people's houses?


That he wasn't a choir boy and this claim of what he did is believable?
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:04 am to
Actually, his pro-slavery beliefs have a lot to do with the issue of state sovereignty.

He doesn't believe in the federal government's right to exist.

Therefore, he doesn't think the federal government had the right to upend southern states power to uphold slavery. Just like the federal government doesn't have the power to regulate federally owned land.

The two issues are intertwined.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73475 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:06 am to
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