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Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:01 pm to Liberator
Most of the bricks were made in Pensacola and shipped there via schooners. During the Civil War, the bricks were made in Maine and shipped via boat, hence the different colors.
it is all well documented.
You are quite the retard.
it is all well documented.
You are quite the retard.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:08 pm to LetsgoGamecocks
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All sailing ships traveling west to east sailed around the tip of Florida. You have no idea what you are talking about.
In 1846?? So...is "National Defense" really this forum's explanation (and beef) for /with questioning the narrative of "Fort Jefferson"?
(What again of the impossible Engineering??)
Is anyone watching the video? Noting the map location? Noting that the actual "island" of "Fort Jefferson" is 98% UNDER WATER? How about the logistics of building such a structure?
IF "National defense" is an issue (NOT really the reason for the post and thread),
but ok -- let's entertain your argument; WHO would have been considered the so-called "threat" in 1846? There were barely any official sovereign "nations" at the time. IF they existed, they were even *younger* a nation than the USA.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:10 pm to Liberator
Idk why it’s hard to believe that the US would build a fort there.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:10 pm to Liberator
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There were barely any official sovereign "nations" at the time. IF they existed, they were even *younger* a nation than the USA.
What in the frick
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:11 pm to Liberator
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Noting that the actual "island" of "Fort Jefferson" is 98% UNDER WATER? How about the logistics of building such a structure?
You do know that most land masses have considerable area under water right?
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:11 pm to Liberator
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All sailing ships traveling west to east sailed around the tip of Florida.
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In 1846??
Please explain why "in 1846??" is your response?
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:12 pm to Fun Bunch
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Most of the bricks were made in Pensacola and shipped there via schooners. During the Civil War, the bricks were made in Maine and shipped via boat, hence the different colors.
it is all well documented.
GREAT! 16 million bricks. BY BOAT. From Maine. Because they are manufactured like tic-tacs. And easy and light enough to transport 1500 miles. Yup, that makes sense. IF I'm hitting a bong the size of a Buick.
Provide whatever links you can find, Magellan.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:13 pm to Liberator
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WHO would have been considered the so-called "threat" in 1846?
Wut?
Spain, Britain, and France for starters, which is all you really need.
The United States spent 150 years from 1815 through WW2 building forts exactly like this from Brownsville to Maine. They are everywhere along the Gulf and Atlantic coasts.
Ft Jefferson is large but definitely not “impossibly” so. It’s size is easily explainable by its strategic location in the Florida straits.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:13 pm to Fun Bunch
1.1 on the Troll meter.
BUT...an 11 on the Tard scale.
BUT...an 11 on the Tard scale.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:14 pm to Liberator
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IF "National defense" is an issue (NOT really the reason for the post and thread),
but ok -- let's entertain your argument; WHO would have been considered the so-called "threat" in 1846? There were barely any official sovereign "nations" at the time. IF they existed, they were even *younger* a nation than the USA.
Once again...
The Monroe Doctrine (ever heard of it?) was a little over 20 years old at the time, and still fresh on most people's minds.
We were at war with Mexico.
We were verging on war with Great Britain (once again) over territorial disputes in the Pacific Northwest.
Plenty of reasons to have a fortification in the Gulf at that time.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:15 pm to Bearcat90
Thanks. I'll check it out.
That said, let's not pretend "History" isn't easy and often fabricated.
That said, let's not pretend "History" isn't easy and often fabricated.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:15 pm to Liberator
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GREAT! 16 million bricks. BY BOAT. From Maine. Because they are manufactured like tic-tacs. And easy and light enough to transport 1500 miles. Yup, that makes sense. IF I'm hitting a bong the size of a Buick.
Wait so you don’t think that bricks can be put onto boats and shipped to Florida?
Your other threads are at least thought provoking or involve actual impressive feats of construction. This is just dumb.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:15 pm to Liberator
You realize those bricks were transported over the course of many, many years, right?
30 years to be exact.
Not all in 1846. It was also never finished.
30 years to be exact.
Not all in 1846. It was also never finished.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:18 pm to Indefatigable
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Wut?
Spain, Britain, and France for starters, which is all you really need.
Right, and we were LITERALLY in a hot war with a sovereign nation at this time in our hemisphere, mexico.
You also don't have to be in active war to build strategic forts to defend yourself.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:25 pm to Liberator
I'm taking a seaplane here in a few weeks. I'll check for aliens and report back.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:26 pm to Bearcat90
Hey bro -- did you happen to read that 'History of Fort Jefferson'??
I appreciate your effort but..it was NO help.
Next to ZERO explanation on the engineering, foundations, infrastructure, and actual building. ZIP.
There WAS some time spent on scoping out the location initially, having problems even getting the supposed project underway, "slavery," sickness, and some scant pages spent on alleged military objectives and trivialities.
Here's the TRUTH:
By 1846 IT. WAS. ALREADY. BUILT.
Think about it.
DO scouts really stop at what are sand-bars and say: "THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BUILD A MILITARY STAR-FORT!"
I appreciate your effort but..it was NO help.
Next to ZERO explanation on the engineering, foundations, infrastructure, and actual building. ZIP.
There WAS some time spent on scoping out the location initially, having problems even getting the supposed project underway, "slavery," sickness, and some scant pages spent on alleged military objectives and trivialities.
Here's the TRUTH:
By 1846 IT. WAS. ALREADY. BUILT.
Think about it.
DO scouts really stop at what are sand-bars and say: "THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BUILD A MILITARY STAR-FORT!"
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:31 pm to Liberator
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By 1946 IT. WAS. ALREADY. BUILT.
It didn't even start getting built until December 1846, and was never finished completely through 1875.
The site was first scouted in 1824. A lighthouse was there for over 20 years before the construction began on the Fort.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:32 pm to Liberator
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DO scouts really stop at what are sand-bars and say: "THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BUILD A MILITARY STAR-FORT!"
What are you getting at here? Do you not appreciate how it is a vital strategic geographic point from a 19th century military and commercial navigational perspective?
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:33 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What are you getting at here?
I would love an answer to this. In detail.
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