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re: Help me understand this Facebook drama.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:57 am to TigerBait1971
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:57 am to TigerBait1971
It was also cell phone and text message history, numbers, and duration of calls, logs, most definitely out of the suggested scope of app
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:57 am to The Spleen
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used for nefarious purposes.
Translation for the purposes of media narrative: Offered to the Trump campaign so they could better specialize political messages.
***What's not much spoke of is that while CA did this and offered it to the Trump admin where they used it only in the primaries. Meanwhile, back in 2012, did pretty much the same thing but gathered far more data.
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In 2012, the Obama campaign encouraged supporters to download an Obama 2012 Facebook app that, when activated, let the campaign collect Facebook data both on users and their friends.
According to a July 2012 MIT Technology Review article, when you installed the app, "it said it would grab information about my friends: their birth dates, locations, and 'likes.' "
The campaign boasted that more than a million people downloaded the app, which, given an average friend-list size of 190, means that as many as 190 million had at least some of their Facebook data vacuumed up by the Obama campaign — without their knowledge or consent.
This is of no consequence because Trump.
-Sky screamers
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:59 am to TigerBait1971
This is why I deleted my account. I wanted Trump to win and all but I'm tired of all my info being out there all the time. Plus, it has become the cesspool of our humanity, it's literally made folks dumber.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:01 am to TigerFanInSouthland
The problem is the conservatives used it in the election, but you didn't hear a peep when they gave Obama any info he desired.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:01 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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it has become the cesspool of our humanity, it's literally made folks dumber.
You haven't seen "cesspool of our humanity" until you've played something like Call of Duty with a group of early and pre-teens.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:01 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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This is why I deleted my account. I wanted Trump to win and all but I'm tired of all my info being out there all the time. Plus, it has become the cesspool of our humanity, it's literally made folks dumber.
It's addictive and they purposely spike your feed to trigger you. It's awful. Twitter is the same - maybe worse because there's less context and more anonymity.
The one decent thing that Facebook has done is a pretty good job of ensuring that people are representing themselves and not using avatars.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:04 am to Bard
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Translation for the purposes of media narrative:
You left off my use of "allegedly" in my post. I don't believe what Cambridge did with the data is out of the ordinary. How they got the data is the problem I have, and that blame falls with the professor that gave them the info he collected.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:09 am to SirWinston
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Twitter is the same - maybe worse
Twitter is a cesspool as well, but at least with Twitter you have a little more control on what shows up in your feed. Blocking obvious bots and trolls, muting replies from people that don't follow you, choosing who to follow, etc. I only get on my Facebook maybe once every week or two, and it's always a jumbled mess, even though I've set it to show newest posts first. I don't care that Bill that I went to high school with Liked an article in the Wall Street Journal.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:11 am to The Spleen
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You left off my use of "allegedly" in my post.
That's because I was translating the media narrative, not yours ;).
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I don't believe what Cambridge did with the data is out of the ordinary. How they got the data is the problem I have, and that blame falls with the professor that gave them the info he collected.
Agreed on all of this. This is one of those "how the sausage is made" things for Facebook. My main annoyance though is that Facebook actively participated with it for the Obama 2012 campaign and the media actually wrote about it back then but there was no great outcry nor gnashing of teeth until it may have helped the Trump campaign. For me it's another example of the pro-Left narrative pushed by much of the media.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:11 am to The Spleen
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That researcher gave all that data to Cambridge where it was allegedly used for nefarious purposes
Helping djt slay that slag Hillary is the opposite of nefarious
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:14 am to The Spleen
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I don't care that Bill that I went to high school with Liked an article in the Wall Street Journal.
I am no longer able to troll on FB because my fiancee' sees literally every thing I post. It sucks.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:17 am to musick
Facebook has access to your phone calls and texts?
frick that.
frick that.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:20 am to TigerBait1971
You all have no idea what you are agreeing to when you install apps. It's bad enough using social media sites on desktop computers with a VPN and appropriate browser plugins. Smartphones are like walking down the street bare arse naked.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:22 am to Wtodd
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don't have FB so it doesn't affect me but FB and media is trying to make a big deal about the Trump campaign getting some of this info but fail to mention that FB GAVE all of this info to Obama and his campaign.
No, wetodd, that is disingenuous and/or ignorant. The information given to the Obama campaign was done so willingly by people. The information given to Cambridge for the Trump campaign was obtained through a disingenuous third party pretending to be a personality test.
So really in one, people did it because they wanted to and the other people didn't know they were doing it and it's very similar to companies selling your information to another company via telemarketing.
I hope this clears up any wetoddation you may have.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:22 am to TigerBait1971
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Facebook has access to your phone calls and texts?
Only on Android phones if you have Facebook Messenger installed from what I understand.
I cancelled installing Facebook Messenger when it asked to be the default SMS texting app during the set up.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:25 am to Ebbandflow
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The information given to the Obama campaign was done so willingly by people. The information given to Cambridge for the Trump campaign was obtained through a disingenuous third party pretending to be a personality test.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:48 am to TigerBait1971
Some people are down playing it, but it is a big deal.
If you are a normal user of Facebook, they know more about you than your parents or spouse. It is more than just knowing your likes and messages. It is the kick arse data mining they have that builds a profile of you.
They track where you go, what you buy, where you shop. Active time and relax time.
The best thing you can do is stay away from social media, but many will not.
I am trying to reduce my footprint, however the damage is already done for my privacy. My goal is to protect my kids privacy though, lessons have been learned.
If you are a normal user of Facebook, they know more about you than your parents or spouse. It is more than just knowing your likes and messages. It is the kick arse data mining they have that builds a profile of you.
They track where you go, what you buy, where you shop. Active time and relax time.
The best thing you can do is stay away from social media, but many will not.
I am trying to reduce my footprint, however the damage is already done for my privacy. My goal is to protect my kids privacy though, lessons have been learned.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:24 pm to imjustafatkid
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'm not sure how any could believe their data is private on a public social network.
Facebook is way more than just what you post. It is your messages, everythjng you type, the websites you visit, in addition to what you say into your phone microphone.
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