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re: Hegseth explains why “unlawful order” means something different inside the military

Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:15 pm to
Are you this dumb irl?
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:19 pm to
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You can infer just fine. It won't hold up in a court martial or a court of law however.


You don’t know that.

But I’m glad you’ve admitted we can analyze intent. Which was clear. Yet you support it. Pathetic.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Then the claim of sedition is dumb.


Let me break it down for you:


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In the United States, the crime of "seditious conspiracy" is defined by federal law as conspiring to overthrow the government or to hinder its laws by force. It is a serious federal crime, distinct from simply expressing opposition or protesting policy through constitutional means.


It pretty clear cut, unless you’re a mind numbed, dumb arse, leftist.
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:32 pm to
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You don’t know that.

But I’m glad you’ve admitted we can analyze intent. Which was clear. Yet you support it. Pathetic.



I've watched Republicans do the same and more most of my adult life. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:45 pm to
Lol Rs are pikers compared to Dems when it comes to hardball to.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:46 pm to
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I've watched Republicans do the same and more most of my adult life. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


Pathetic.
Posted by riccoar
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:59 pm to
And you believe men can become women
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:05 pm to
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In the United States, the crime of "seditious conspiracy" is defined by federal law as conspiring to overthrow the government or to hinder its laws by force


Yep, where did this occur?.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:06 pm to
When they told the service members to ignore orders
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:06 pm to
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Yep, where did this occur?.


Are we allowed to infer intent in this storyline or no?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:08 pm to
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When they told the service members to ignore orders


If orders are illegal.

Do you have a problem with people ignoring illegal orders?

Pete torpedoed his own point.
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?? It never named a specific “illegal order.”
?? It created ambiguity rather than clarity.

This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:10 pm to
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Do you have a problem with people ignoring illegal orders?


Does this apply to court orders as well?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Does this apply to court orders as well?


Yes. No doubt.


You should be pissed at Pete, not me. Pete is the one who destroyed his own argument.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:16 pm to
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You should be pissed at Pete, not me. Pete is the one who destroyed his own argument.


Just trying to set the rules before proving you’re an idiot again. I’ll ask again. Are we allowed to infer intent with this story?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Just trying to set the rules before proving you’re an idiot again


Talk to Pete. He fricked up y'alls argument badly.


Poor Bongs.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:19 pm to
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Talk to Pete. He fricked up y'alls argument badly. Poor Bongs.


He isn’t arguing on my behalf. I’ll ask a third time. Don’t be a pussy and avoid the very straight forward question. Are we allowed to infer intent with this story or not?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:23 pm to
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He isn’t arguing on my behalf.


He;'s destroying your argument.
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?? It never named a specific “illegal order.”
?? It created ambiguity rather than clarity.


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Are we allowed to infer intent with this story or not?


Why the frick do you need my permission?

But good luck in court. All you will do is pay lawyers to lose
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:25 pm to
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He;'s destroying your argument.


I haven’t made my argument yet. As I said. I’m trying to level set the rules before destroying your binary thinking simpleton “argument.”

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Why the frick do you need my permission?

Nobody needs your permission. I’m level setting the boundaries of the argument.

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But good luck in court. All you will do is pay lawyers to lose


Good for the lawyers then, right? Why don’t refuse to answer my very simple question? Pussy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:26 pm to
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I haven’t made my argument yet.


there isnt one. Just whining and raging
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Good for the lawyers then, right?


frick em. biggest con racket in the country. We could do with 75% fewer of these leaches.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56184 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:29 pm to
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there isnt one. Just whining and raging


You’re so tiresome. Still refuse to answer a simple question. I knew you would piss out. You’re the one whining and raging like a little girl.

If we are allowed to infer intent then it is obvious that the statement is seditious. And Trump called them out for that.


If we aren’t allowed to infer intent, there was nothing wrong with the factual statement they made. Likewise there is nothing wrong with the factual statement Trump made.


Pick whether you are ok with inferring intent or not. Either way Trump wins and you, again. Are just raging and whining. Grow a pair. Pussy.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 2:31 pm
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