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re: Heather Heyer's mom lost a loved one at Sandy Hook too, according to 8chan.

Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:25 pm to
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I've got my copy...


Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:27 pm to
Without fail 9/11 shows up.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:27 pm to
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It's funny. I'm supposed to say, "wooooooo, that's strange....CONSPIRACY!!!" but they aren't supposed to think, "man, that's some convoluted shite" when thinking about the HOW of it being executed?
The best part is that as we were discussing earlier, so many will tell you to do your own research, as if they were a contemporary Woodward & Bernstein.

Then come to find out, most of the "research" most likely comes from others on message boards, YouTube channels, blogs, or obscure websites. And like the OP, the evidence doesn't go much further than a bunch of pictures or other things they see as connections.

But once these questions arise, there is usually no search for multiple possible answers or even questioning whether the connections are actually associated with one another. Sometimes it stops at the questioning, and allows that to lead the mind, but most of the time it leads to a single answer, that it's evidence of this massive conspiracy.

It's purely an inductive process, and worse, it's induction that always leads to the same type of hypothesis. There is no attempt to consider other alternatives nor any attempt at falsifying their own hypothesis. This is level of of reasoning that Piaget discovered children as you as 7 could show, and they tend to advance past the flaws of that reasoning at around 11. So basically they are using elementary level reasoning.

Maybe most the most ironic let though, as you showed, others quickly debunk the various points of the conspiracy, since well, it only requires an adolescent level of reasoning. Yet those master researchers didn't bother to discover the very basic research others had done to debunk the child-like theories of others.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:28 pm to
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Without fail 9/11 shows up.


I did it for you, baw!
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:30 pm to
I saw you added orlando, too. You must have multiple phds in critical thinking plus a law degree! What else you got?
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:40 pm to
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the evidence doesn't go much further than


I think building 7 was brought down because John Kerry said it was brought down, in a controlled manner...and dubya said it was "an organized group of...con***...organized group"

There was the deathbed confession guy
The sound of an tiered explosion
And a few other "elementary school" observations...a video of a guy inside bldg 7, getting ushered out
Not to mention far worse fires didn't bring down other buildings (raging infernos)
I'll also point out a few hundred architects think it was blown...but we know how retarded George from Seinfeld can be...

I don't know about all the other crazy 911 theories

...except the cell phone calls, I couldn't call anything in the air on a cell phone back in '01, and I tried, I guess it can technically could hold a signal for 20 seconds. But an 18 minute phone call on an airplane in 2001...not likely.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:41 pm to
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I saw you added orlando, too. You must have multiple phds in critical thinking plus a law degree! What else you got?


Oil doesn't come from dead dinosaurs
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:48 pm to
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Who doesn't believe in Sandy Hook? People with critical thinking skills - vast majority are PH.D's and lawyers.

Who believes in Sandy Hook? - High School career counselor guy.
So when you say "believe on Sandy Hook," do you mean believe in the official story? Because when I first read the quoted paragraphs, I thought you had to be referring to it believing in Sandy Hook meant believing believing in the hoax, because I was thinking just that.

Then the rest of your post, and your previous post indicates the opposite that you belive it'd a hoax.

So so you really think the people who believe it's a hoax are largely lawyers and PhD's, and those who don't believe it's a hoax are high school educated and ignorant?

I may have some if the professions and education levels incorrect, but I'm going off of memory from previous discussion. So it appears in this thread alone, of those who do not believe it's a hoax, we habe at least two lawyers (Iosh, boosie), at least one MD (NC_Tigah), and at least one PhD (myself).

I am curious what the level and professional distributions are for both, but my money is on the complete opposite of what you're arguing.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:48 pm to
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I saw you added orlando, too


The number of shots fired is amazing for a semi automatic weapon...

4 rounds per second, more than half hitting...minimum of 6 magazines for the hit count, 4 more for the misses

Then a cop with a pistol puts an end to it 90 seconds later.

I think it is far more of a stretch to crank out those kind of rounds accurately than sandy hook.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:48 pm to
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That's more probable than the Orlando shooter hitting 300 shots in 90 seconds, along with missing another couple hundred


I shoot an AR at the range once every two weeks or so. Maybe 3 x a month. I don't think I can hit those shots. Much less if I was 18 years old.

The fact that his mother would even own an AR strikes me as odd.

I'm not saying that I believe the SH conspiracy; but researching it enough, has made me question a few things.

The people in here spouting nonsense that the government would NEVER conduct false flags are the ones needing their IQs tested.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:52 pm to
So is it possible for tragedies to happen? Or is everything a false flag?
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:53 pm to
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Oil doesn't come from dead dinosaurs




Well mostly from dead vegetation....more flora than fauna.

That's pretty weak and, frankly, stupid.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:54 pm to
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It's purely an inductive process, and worse, it's induction that always leads to the same type of hypothesis. There is no attempt to consider other alternatives nor any attempt at falsifying their own hypothesis. This is level of of reasoning that Piaget discovered children as you as 7 could show, and they tend to advance past the flaws of that reasoning at around 11. So basically they are using elementary level reasoning.


Remember the Maine!
Or when McNamara outted the Gulf of Tonken as a fabrication...hey, then Vietnam...for a decade
How about last year when the white helmets ALMOST got us into Syria with the pic of the little boy...

Too many people knew the photographer, knew he was a propagandist...it stifled the attempt to get the media fired up...
That 1 little hottie from CNN ate that up, though...cried on the air for Obama to do something...


Greatest thing Obama did in his Presidency was go back on the red line
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:55 pm to
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I shoot an AR at the range once every two weeks or so. Maybe 3 x a month. I don't think I can hit those shots. Much l


Karla, you don't think you could walk up to cowering 5-7 yr olds and hit them?
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 9:56 pm
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:00 pm to
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Well mostly from dead vegetation....more flora than fauna.

That's pretty weak and, frankly, stupid.


You've been lied to, unless there are deep arse potatoes! (There might be)

There are oil wells over 30,000 feet deep...
One near Houston is 4,000 feet of sea, then 35,000 feet deep...

How did all those vegetables get there...

Hey, it fricked me up, too...i was 23 in eastern Montana, standing next to a dinosaur excavation site...on the surface
Right next to it, oil well being drilled...i asked the dude at the site, how deep of a well are they digging...6000 feet.

"Well, I guess oil doesn't come from ancient flora and fauna?"
"Nah, kid, that's stupid, they just tell you that"

This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 10:01 pm
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:03 pm to
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I shoot an AR at the range once every two weeks or so. Maybe 3 x a month. I don't think I can hit those shots. Much less if I was 18 years old.


Yeah the 300 rounds was Orlando...

I'm not sure how many were fired at Sandy Hook...even John Wicking it in a night club getting 50 kills and 50 wounded with 3 shots in each is tough
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:06 pm to
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Without fail 9/11 shows up.


yup.

It's really pathetic how lost people like this are.

Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:06 pm to
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So is it possible for tragedies to happen? Or is everything a false flag?


Sure, the black serial killer in Kansas City right now...whacked 5 people...

What, you haven't heard of him?

Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:07 pm to
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yup.

It's really pathetic how lost people like this are.


Call me a phoney...it might be my trigger word
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:08 pm to
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Hey, it fricked me up, too...i was 23 in eastern Montana, standing next to a dinosaur excavation site...on the surface
Right next to it, oil well being drilled...i asked the dude at the site, how deep of a well are they digging...6000 feet.

"Well, I guess oil doesn't come from ancient flora and fauna?"
"Nah, kid, that's stupid, they just tell you that"


Oh
My
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