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re: Have you ever heard a liberal say that voter fraud does not exist?

Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116695 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:00 pm to
IRL .. no, they would be ashamed
Online.. constantly
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:01 pm to
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but the current means to address it coming from the right potentially disenfranchises legitimate, legal voters.


Seriously, how hard is it to get an ID? Are we really that lazy of a country that we can't even get off our arse for a few hours to get an ID?

You need an ID for basic day to day life in this country. I don't know how someone can function without one. Why not use this as a means for people to actually get an ID?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37006 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Furthermore, the type of fraud that the ID would guard against - posing as someone else - is exceedingly rare.
This. Absentee ballots are were the real numbers are at.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2498 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Best I could come up with on such short notice: “My colleagues and I are acting aggressively to ensure that every American… can exercise his or her right to participate in the democratic process, unencumbered by unnecessary restrictions that discourage and discriminate or that disenfranchise in the name of a problem that doesn’t exist,” Holder said.

It is not a problem because they use it to win. Voter fraud is part of their solution to winning elections.


I just read these entire article. He never said voter fraud did not exist.

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“My colleagues and I are acting aggressively to ensure that every American… can exercise his or her right to participate in the democratic process, unencumbered by unnecessary restrictions that discourage and discriminate or that disenfranchise in the name of a problem that doesn’t exist,” Holder said.


Spilled some crap on my Keyboard. Sorry for the random numbers and crap earlier.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50482 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:05 pm to
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You need an ID for basic day to day life in this country. I don't know how someone can function without one.


I literally can not remember the last time I had to show ID outside of an airport.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32965 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:05 pm to
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posing as someone else - is exceedingly rare.


I see dead people voting

I see dead people voting and others voting in two states

You were saying?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:07 pm to
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I literally can not remember the last time I had to show ID outside of an airport.


Let's see.

You can't get a job, you can't get a car, you can't rent an apartment, you can't open a bank account.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32965 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:09 pm to
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This. Absentee ballots are were the real numbers are at. 

So you're saying, if voter ID laws are nationwide, this is where Dems will concentrate more of their voter fraud efforts. Damn, y'all go this shite down to a science.
Posted by BoatSchoolTiger
Houston, TX
Member since May 2013
659 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:16 pm to
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The "myth" is that voter fraud is a big issue.


So, the new lib talking point is now, "It happens, but no big deal". Kinda like the IRS scandal?



kinda like:
"What difference does it make?"
-our next president
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:20 pm to
Any vote that's an illegal vote diminishes everyone else's voice.

One illegal vote is a major injustice in our political system.

That you don't understand this is telling un itself.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116695 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:22 pm to
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I literally can not remember the last time I had to show ID outside of an airport.


I have had to show voter ID every election for the last 50 years. And I vote every election.

I had to show my ID at the liquor store when I was 45 years old. It was the greatest compliment I've ever received by a woman.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:24 pm to
Roger Klarvin:
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Voter fraud is a red herring for sure.

LINK

Draconian Sanctions:
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government reports aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

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samson'sseed:
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ccording to the NEWS story, THERE IS NO PROOF OF FRAUD.

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SpidermanTUba:
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The only voter fraud that really matters is done by the folks COUNTING the ballots - not the people CASTING them.

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samson'sseed:
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Those allegations have never been proved to be cases of voter fraud.

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ottothewise:
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Exhaustive analysis finds fraud that might be deterred by polling place photo ID restrictions "virtually non-existent."

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Decatur:
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Problem of UFOs >>>>>>>> Problem of voter fraud

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CaptainBrannigan:
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Because this is about disenfrancising voters, espically those that might vote Democrat. It has absoultely nothing to do with voter fraud.

LINK

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41742 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:58 pm to
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I literally can not remember the last time I had to show ID outside of an airport.


Saturday night I had to show my driver's license to get a beer at the LSU game.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:13 pm to
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I see dead people voting

I see dead people voting and others voting in two states

You were saying?


The problem isn't voter ID, it's a failure of State's to purge their voting rolls. Any law to clear this up should involve annual or even quarterly voter roll purges.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:19 pm to
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The problem isn't voter ID, it's a failure of State's to purge their voting rolls. Any law to clear this up should involve annual or even quarterly voter roll purges.




I would be in favor of this before IDs, but wouldn't that disinfranchise deceased voters?
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Because you think minorities are too stupid / lazy to obtain a FREE frickING ID.


Your racism is killing me inside.


Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:44 pm to
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I literally can not remember the last time I had to show ID outside of an airport


I had to show my ID twice in the last 35 minutes at the bank and the DMV.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 4:41 pm to
I've seen a lot of posters dismiss voter fraud and deny it exists at all.
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