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re: Has there been "regime change" in Iran?

Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:50 am to
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:50 am to
This war has been ongoing for 5 weeks and from the outside it looks like the US and Israeli military have decimated the Iranian regime. Not toppled and have not removed all of their capability. However, I never thought this would be over in a month. I of course do not want a never ending war, but I would give the administration and military 6 months to achieve their goals and see significant progress, that takes us through the summer but ends this thing by winter.

Iran’s defense strategy has been two fold:
1) to create worldwide havoc and just go “f the world” and create as much pain to put pressure on the administration to end it early.
2) develop and get as many drones that they can (probably some from Russia and China) rather than easy to target and hard to manufacture missiles to target their neighbors.

It’s a brilliant strategy to use when you know you can fight back and it’s working. This war will be won in the back hall conversations that Rubio and his ambassadors can have with leaders across the world. Can he maintain support or at least toned down rhetoric from Europe to get the time we need to finish the job. We have to treat this as a siege and let them use up their resources and as that happens the tide will turn. Of course, the wild card is Trump himself and that is what scares everyone and why support for the war can disappear quickly. He often times just cannot get out of his own way.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:50 am to
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If the Iranian Republican guard stays in power, however, it no longer funds, terrorism, pursues nuclear weapons, or builds, a giant missile system, then that is regime change.


That's like saying Obama got regime change in 2015 with the JCPOA
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90356 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:51 am to
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If only a third support the regime, that's about 30M people.

So you think they are more popular than the Dem Party?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49672 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:52 am to
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Anyone can answer.


You prove this every day. You lie and make up stupid shite more than anybody.

470K posts, and most of it has been nothing but self-absorbed narcissistic bullshite. Hey, I guess it's better than having to pay for much-needed therapy.

PS - Although, you're actually above answering questions yourself. You still haven't acknowledged that President Trump shut down the border, which only serves to expose the extent of your TDS, boy.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13030 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:53 am to
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So what is your definition?
I can only presume you are asking about the scare quotes canard that is the basis of this thread “regime change”.

So, my position is: start a thread on that question, not one that creates a mythology designed to support an agenda (Trump’s strategy has failed!) that is not at all supported by the documented goals of this military action - which have NEVER included regime change.

SloFloProcess is just reworking the old trope asking when did you stop beating your wife - phony horse shite…
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25109 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:53 am to
Lets send the ground troops in there and find out!!!!
Posted by RohanGonzales
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10504 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:53 am to
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SlowFlowPro


What is the point of ANOTHER thread?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:55 am to
quote:

What is the point of ANOTHER thread?


The admin seems to be claiming regime change has occurred in Iran.

This thread is discussing whether or not we think that's a legitimate point or dishonesty/propaganda.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97732 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Iran has 90M people, give or take.

If only a third support the regime, that's about 30M people.


A lot less

quote:



Based on available polls and analysis, an overwhelming majority of Iranian people oppose the Islamic Republic's leadership and the IRGC. Surveys often suggest 80%–90%+ desire fundamental change, with leaked data indicating high disapproval


Opposed to Regime/IRGC: A leaked survey commissioned by Iran's presidency reportedly showed 92% of Iranians oppose the regime, including the IRGC.

Desire for Change: Studies have indicated that over 80% of Iranians want regime change.

Rejection of Military Rule: Surveys conducted by groups such as Gamaan found that more than 70% of Iranians oppose military control.

Support for Protests: Approximately 80% of Iranians within the country support recent anti-regime protests.

Opposition to Islamic Republic: Multiple reports suggest that around 81% of Iranians do not want an Islamic Republic. 


Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49672 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:56 am to
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SlowFlowPro



What is the point of ANOTHER thread?


You're asking a nutjob with almost a half-million posts not to be a redundant blowhard?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:56 am to
quote:

You prove this every day. You lie and make up stupid shite more than anybody.

470K posts, and most of it has been nothing but self-absorbed narcissistic bullshite. Hey, I guess it's better than having to pay for much-needed therapy.

PS - Although, you're actually above answering questions yourself. You still haven't acknowledged that President Trump shut down the border, which only serves to expose the extent of your TDS, boy.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:57 am to
quote:

A lot less


Ok so 15M

That still reaches the "millions" threshold I referenced.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90356 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:58 am to
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That still reaches the "millions" threshold I referenced.
Big win big win!
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
1038 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 7:59 am to
Was there regime change in Venezuela?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68121 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:00 am to
That's a good question. We have hardline Chavistas ruling with a gun to their head.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97732 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:00 am to
Thats wonderful. But its a lot less than 30mil

We will get regime change and we will own Kharg Island aka the oil. Orange bad has been saying it since 88

I know thats going to upset you, powerbottom and bunk aka team hamas
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
39394 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:01 am to
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SlowFappingPro working it!


Powertard and boosie couldn't resist

Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4573 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:04 am to
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So who is in power now, exactly?
No one here knows, and therefore this thread is premature and a waste of everyone’s time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:04 am to
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Was there regime change in Venezuela?

That's a much more interesting discussion, but not applicable to Iran unless we can argue that a member of the old regime in Iran agreed to be a US puppet (which would be the argument for Venezuela to differentiate it from the prior regime)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:04 am to
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Thats wonderful. But its a lot less than 30mil


It only needs to be 1M for me to be proven right (again)

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