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re: Hamas says pointless to engage in ceasefire talks. Hostages never to be released.

Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12054 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:14 pm to
Funny how you haven’t posted in years but choose my topics to rant on recently ?

Stolen valor.

This account has been hijacked bros…

Reported!
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:15 pm to
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I prefer to complain about a few of the million. Feel free to argue anytime.


Do you complain about the billions we give to UNRWA (aka Hamas)?

quote:

The United States has historically been the largest financial contributor to UNRWA, with total contributions reaching more than $7.3 billion since 1950. In 2023, U.S. funding accounted for nearly 30% of UNRWA's donor contributions.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12054 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:16 pm to
This clown has stolen the account go look at the post history !
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:20 pm to
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To my knowledge, I’ve never met a Palestinian.


Wait… All this simping for Palestinians and you’ve never even met one?!
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12054 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:20 pm to
Stop it! This clown is a bot with a stolen account.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:23 pm to
What? Grassy has been ranting about Israel for a long time, this isn’t something new.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12054 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:26 pm to
Unless it just came out of the closet it’s a bot.
Maybe it passed it along to the group.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:33 pm to
I don’t know what you’re talking about but I just scrolled through his post history and found him whining about Israel this month, last month, March… This is not a recent development.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:37 pm to
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Wait… All this simping for Palestinians and you’ve never even met one?!


I find it interesting that some of you can't have the least bit of sympathy or compassion for children of any ethnicity.

Do any of you have kids? Grandkids? Imagine them starving, being chased around a concrete rubble city, being chased by snipers and bombs. Tens of thousands of them. Damn. And somehow I'm the jerk?

I would care much less if Israel were killing kids with their own money, but they're using our money. Money that we have to go borrow from China.

$3.8 billion in March's continuing resolution directly to Israel, not to mention the fleet of ships and bases surrounding the region.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:06 pm to
Glad you asked - I do have a child and guess where he’s not going this summer? Hamas training camp like these Palestinian children! Where they do things like… pantomime shooting restrained victims in the head?

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Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:16 pm to
I have sympathy and compassion for children of every ethnicity. This is child abuse. Of Palestinian children, BY Palestinians.

And these children were taught this in UNRWA schools. Which, as I already pointed out and you dodged, the US funded with BILLIONS of American dollars.

So if you only care about Israel’s actions because they receive US dollars, SURELY you are just as troubled by UNRWA doing this shite to Palestinian kids with US dollars?

Right?

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Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13815 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:16 pm to
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(unless you decide that for some reason Israeli lives are approximately worth 80 Palestinian lives)


Actually, Hamas and Palestinians have decided that a single Israeli life is worth numerous Palestinian lives; look at the hostage & prisoner release ratios.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 7:51 am to
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So if you only care about Israel’s actions because they receive US dollars, SURELY you are just as troubled by UNRWA doing this shite to Palestinian kids with US dollars?

Right?



I absolutely agree.

Americans work hard to earn our contributions to our government.

Our money should go toward a balanced budget, that takes care of American infrastructure, and defense of Americans.

Our politicians have proven that they're only good at destroying nations, not building them. And they're not going to stop if we continue to be silent.

Let Israel build their nation. And certainly defend themselves.

America First.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:26 am to
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He does indeed say that Hamas is despicable, but then he rails on Israel for killing Palestinians and has zero response when asked in what alternative choice does Israel have. He brings every discussion back to "Israel is killing women and children" without any consideration to Hamas' accountability for the plight of the Palestinians.


Really?

The simple reason that he is complaining about Israel killing Palestinians is: That OUR government is Financing the whole damn deal.

Why is it incumbent on the USA to "provide an alternate choice"?

Let Israel do whatever they want with Hamas and all their other Middle East enemies, with their own damn money.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:46 am to
I find it amusing that you think I'm a bot.

Rapides Parish School System would be proud to hear that my writing skills are so grand that Barberitosdawg thinks I'm a machine. If I've picked on your threads, it's a cowinkydinky that you like to post about things that bother me.


Often as I sit hear "lobbying" for the children in Gaza, my 7 month old grand daughter is playing in front of me.

I can't imagine denying her of her next meal. And then the next and the next. And dragging her thru Gaza's remains, looking for food for her and I. Hoping that nothing happens that either of us need medical care.

I know that the adults in Palestine are brutal and many should be probably be put to death. But I also believe that Israel has done it's fair share to create the situation. Hence, let those two figure it out, without continuing to put the USA in the middle of it.

Maybe I missed it, but no one seems to be arguing that the USA should be involved in killing children, just that Israel should. :shrug:

I really wish you the best BarberitosDawg. I'm sure you're a great person and care about children too. We've just consumed different information over the last couple of years, therefore we disagree on this subject.

Unfortunately, I'm not a bot. I just retired, I have 1 kid, 3 step kids, and 1 grand daughter. I have a (so far) mild form of cancer, and have mellowed in my "conservative" stance over the last few years. Most people are really good people, just trying to figure out the new obstacles that come their way every day, and deserve the benefit of the doubt.


Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13815 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:19 am to
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The simple reason that he is complaining about Israel killing Palestinians is: That OUR government is Financing the whole damn deal.


This is false.

He uses all the progressive buzzwords to describe Israel.... Genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, etc.

He's explicitly stated that Israel purposely targets Palestinian women and children.

His criticism of Israel goes way beyond simply disagreeing with our involvement.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:41 am to
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This is false.

He uses all the progressive buzzwords to describe Israel.... Genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, etc.

He's explicitly stated that Israel purposely targets Palestinian women and children.

His criticism of Israel goes way beyond simply disagreeing with our involvement.


No, you are incorrect. The simple reason is because we are financing it.

But since We ARE financing it, Israel opens itself up to Our critique. (Until AIPAC is able to make it illegal in our country to critique Israel.)

When you provide your son with a car, insurance, gas and tires, will you not critique his driving? When you finance your daughter's college education, will you not discuss her curriculum and critique her grades?

And since you brought it up, I would agree with him on all the words you listed above. If calling them "progressive buzzwords" makes you feel more conservative, and helps you believe that this is a Left/Right issue, then goof for you.
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