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re: Halloween in Venezuela: Trump administration has authorized strikes on Venezuela

Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:42 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:42 am to
quote:

You actually WANT Maduro to stay in power



No, I say looking at recent history, it makes no difference.


When has regime changed proved positive for us?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86314 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:43 am to
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When has regime changed proved positive for us?


Swapping Joe for Kamala helped us out.


Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85449 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:46 am to
I didn’t realize that there were pro- Maduro voices on the American Right. Learn something new every day.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:49 am to
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I didn’t realize that there were pro- Maduro voices on the American Right.


There isnt. There are educated voices that realize regime change has never worked.

I've asked you a couple of times and you cant answer.

Sanction work. Use them.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 11:50 am
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
85449 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:51 am to
I didn’t answer because each of my posts make it clear I oppose the US intervening militarily. I just assumed it was a given that everyone on the Right would loathe Maduro and want him out. I stand corrected.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:52 am to
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I didn’t answer because each of my posts make it clear I oppose the US intervening militarily.


you dont oppose regime change, so how do you propose we do this?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85449 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:57 am to
How we are. Pressure. Isolation.Threaten his narcotics cash flow. Make Maduro as vulnerable to the Venezuelan mob as possible. Encourage a Ceaucescu or Quadaffi outcome. Without American boots on the ground. That’s a bridge too far.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:03 pm to
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Without American boots on the ground. That’s a bridge too far.


Special forces are definitely on the ground if we're posturing here.

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85449 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:08 pm to
Not sure about that. But I bet they could be there in an hour.

I would bet there are hundreds of Venezuelan CIA assets on Maduro . He’s truly reviled. Venezuelans want him dead.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Not sure about that. But I bet they could be there in an hour.


quote:

A former FBI agent has claimed that U.S. special forces have been operating covertly in Venezuela "for some time," suggesting that recent moves by Washington form part of a broader military and intelligence strategy authorized under U.S. law.


LINK

I have no doubt we have CIA and other special ops on the ground. Hell, we have been using them in Africa in wars that arent ours.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84572 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:16 pm to
Nothing gets my dick harder than regime change
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62902 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Not a problem with this at all..

But why haven't we staunchly defended our own borders for the last 25 years?

Why haven't we nipped the Mex-cartel action in the bud 40 years ago?

Why haven't we defended American manufacturing and business since the 90s?

From what I've observed, our philosophical "defense" policy doesn't seem to be so much about "defending" or "preserving" America's true interest at all.


I don't disagree with any of this. Trump is changing all of these things.
Posted by sotex
Member since Oct 2018
230 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:01 pm to
Yep, it’s well past time to stop playing paddy cake with the idiots in our own hemisphere, imho. Monroe Doctrine, or something like that. Should also overthrow Havana, finally.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18834 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:30 pm to
Probably gonna happen tomorrow or Sunday night.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6537 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

The modern method is an air campaign and spooks behind the scenes


Not modern.

Been doing this for decades
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:42 pm to
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Been doing this for decades


Yes, modern.

Weve been using this tactic for 30 years. Its still the modern tactic.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37835 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Encourage a Ceaucescu or Quadaffi outcome


How’s Libya working out numbnuts?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85449 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 2:00 pm to
You want Maduro to continue terrorizing the Venezuelan people? You want millions more people to flood into America? You want the richest country in the history of South America to continue to be the murder Capital of the world? You support this Narco organized crime State that has murdered thousands of people, is flooded with Cuban bureaucrats who have plundered the country, and that supports all of our enemies? Why the frick would any American support that? I understand why an American wouldn’t support direct military action, but why the frick would any American be against Maduro going out badly in the very near future?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62902 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:00 pm to
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Yep, it’s well past time to stop playing paddy cake with the idiots in our own hemisphere, imho. Monroe Doctrine, or something like that. Should also overthrow Havana, finally.


Completely agree. We are less safe because we allow these paltry countries to give a foothold into our region to foreign powers that hate us.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8389 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:06 pm to
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How’s Libya working out numbnuts?


Trump's pulling troops from Romania. How come you don't mention that numbnuts?

(The other dictator besides Quaddaffi in the post you were replying to was Romanian.)
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