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re: Gun Violence re: From meme thread - Spoiler, it’s not the guns fault

Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:00 pm to
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You could also apply the same logic to the legal gun owners that have WAY more guns than they let on/admit to...

No argument there. Gun freaks love to collect guns. We don't deny it at all. :-D
Honest question tho. I've been posting a lot since I joined, so I've lost track.... which logic in particular are you referencing?
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:06 pm to
Your people also have a very serious problem that is the same as the other side of my parentage. Skinfolk. My Korean parents will only vote for Koreans. Preferably, Democrat Koreans. And then those same Koreans go dirty, and let the city/state go to Democrat shite.
And then complain about it, but still vote for the same phuks that are causing what they complain about.
Our people's need to look at substance, not skin.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:14 pm to
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Racism is big business. And not just for the big names like Sharpton, Crump, etc.

“Regular” people with channels on social media are able to make money by saying things and generating outrage. Perhaps it’s a grift at first, until they and their followers begin to sample their own wares.

recording lables have capitalized on it too. There's whistle blowers who have come out, saying g the record lables have a preference to X type of songs over z types of songs.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24950 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:16 pm to
Jamaica had a 25/100,000 homicide rate 30 years ago. They banned all civilian fire arms and backed it up with special police, courts and jails. Today their homicide rate is 44/100,000.

An armed good citizen is society's free cop.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3309 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:19 pm to
This piece here:

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Are they taking into account illegally owned (stolen) guns? Or are they basing it off of legal purchase records (Legal PURCHASES. The records are not legal!) I'm not arguing that the statistics would change that whites outnumber blacks or Latinos. I'm just saying the margins between the three would be different.


The margins could absolutely change, but could also be offset with the amount of other guns legally owned that may or may not have escaped a boating accident
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18809 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:20 pm to
Same stuff is happening in Stockholm, Sweden.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:39 pm to
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The margins could absolutely change, but could also be offset with the amount of other guns legally owned that may or may not have escaped a boating accident

Laugh More, thanks for pointing it out, I really do appreciate it! :-)
Ohhhh OK, I see. Yeah, it would definitely change some of those numbers.
It would also change those numbers if they knew just how many of the members were in possession of kit guns.
Open mindedness, I'm stuck on public transit, riding g the bus. Sometimes thru inner city. And I talk to people. There's a lot more kit guns in the inner cities, than people realize.
Why? I'm just gonna go with the answers that they're cheaper, and people don't want auntie kamala knowing they have them. ;-)
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:06 pm to
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But a sizable percentage of them act subhuman.


OK, I know that this was in reaction to the same wording used, that you're replying to.
I'm going to throw a different view on this.
They're acting the way their society programs them to act. The exact same way progressives are programmed to scream down anybody with an opinion they don't like. The same way that feminists are programmed that they're superior to men, and that all women are rated as 10's. The same wY college kids are taught that words are violence, and you retaliate to that, with physical violence.
If you want to break that kind of behavior, you first have to break thru the programming.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:08 pm to
Wait until you see the graph of gun violence in states related to guns owned per capita

Then gun violence in states related to black population per capita
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:20 pm to
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So, they're going to continue to kill each other until we give them some money? Bold strategy

There's literally nothing in what Dawg said, in regards to reparations.
No offense, but that's literally the kind of redflagging that is causing the kinds of problems between the colors that he's talking about.
Nobody appreciates that thrown at them. Can we tone that down, please?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65985 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:28 pm to
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Unless there is an understanding and acceptance that there are systemic issues at hand which leads to generational poverty among blacks (me included),


So name them.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24950 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:01 pm to
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Take England for example which is multiracial. If you compare like-for-like, their homicide rate among whites is going to be much lower than the general population as well. The figures I could find suggest that the homicide rate among whites in England and Wales is 0.9 per 100,000.

So comparing English whites with American whites, American whites have a homicide rate 3x higher than English whites.


American whites are not exactly homogenous by cultural ancestry. To compare like to like, people of actual cultural ancestry would be far more valid of a comparison.

There was a huge study that did compare many like to like cultural sets across the pond and elsewhere. For example, Swedish Americans in Minnesota were compared to their Swedish cousins on differences in gun ownership and homicide rates. There were no significant differences except that Swedes in Minnesota had a lower suicide rate.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24950 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:04 pm to
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65%+ of blacks people grow up in a single family household.
the Great Society destroyed the black community on purpose.


LBJ didn't care. He just knew he could buy a voting block even if he destroyed the black two parent home.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24950 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:07 pm to
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The correlation between broken homes/no fathers and crime/poverty is undeniable.


And that has been well known well before sociology became a thing.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18803 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:13 pm to
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Unless there is an understanding and acceptance that there are systemic issues at hand which leads to generational poverty among blacks (me included), we will always wonder why the hell this keeps happening.



The "systemic" issues are in the mirror, a culture that can't accept personal accountability and puts image over substance. You wonder about something so painfully obvious to the rest to the civilized world.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:26 pm to
Auburn- apologies, I'm just using this to grab the quote from your post.
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The correlation between broken homes/no fathers and crime/poverty is undeniable.




So let's take a look at what's going on here. And I'll point out one portion of the problem.
We have a society where they're encouraged to breed like rabbits (That's just a phrase, don't get offended) and it doesn't matter, because there's gov't programs to cover it, so just keep popping out more kids and not worry about population growth in a confined area of space.
1) they're making you that much more dependant on the same gov't that has put you in your place, for decades.
2) They're putting the family development of your children solely in the hands women that have little respect for you, don't care about you, and treat you like shite. And will not only verbally pass that along to your kids, but also do so by example.
3) These same mothers who are also government dependant for survival, pass that along by example, to your future generations. Along with the example, that you don't need to do anything, don't need to aspire, and don't have to do anything worthwhile to create a place for yourself in a better society.
4) And you let yourselves be convinced that those who embrace what it takes to succeed as traitors. House Nigs, Uncle Toms.
Tear down their success, deplatform them, cancel them. When you should actually be listening to how they got there, so you can too.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24950 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:30 pm to
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The "systemic" issues are in the mirror, a culture that can't accept personal accountability and puts image over substance. You wonder about something so painfully obvious to the rest to the civilized world.


The NYC school system deals with a huge array of cultures. One thing that defines those who will rise to success or mire in failure is who students blame for their failures. Kids that blame society the grab bag of the usual excuses fail. Kids who blame themselves try harder and study harder and succeed.

Kids aren't going to change society or the race baiters excuses. It is outside of them and beyond their control. Kids who blame their own lack of effort can fix that because they can have control of themselves.
Posted by nwacajun
St louis
Member since Dec 2008
1645 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:41 pm to
White supremacy has been on vacation?
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5585 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:54 am to
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For a start, it just states gun ownership by race and then goes onto argue that homicide rates couldn't possibly be because of gun ownership. That's not a robust analysis - it could be the case that people committing homicides have access to more guns regardless of race.


"gun ownership" should not be known by the government, but should be purchased legally. so the fact that this is even a part of this discussion is pitiful. having said that, how many reports do you need to see that state the same thing to make you believe it? it is good to question things, but you know damn well which neighborhoods you don't want to bring your family to and which ones you are comfortable in.

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homicide rate of 2.6 per 100,000 is still pretty high compared with most Western nations

this stat is a waste of time because most other countries have very different gun laws.

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Take England for example which is multiracial. If you compare like-for-like, their homicide rate among whites is going to be much lower than the general population as well. The figures I could find suggest that the homicide rate among whites in England and Wales is 0.9 per 100,000.

So comparing English whites with American whites, American whites have a homicide rate 3x higher than English whites.

handguns are illegal there. And you need special licensing for all other guns. apples and oranges.

As other people have stated, where are the black leaders in all of this? Go ask black people why they choose to listen to race baiting pieces of shite instead of someone like Thomas Sowell?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293746 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:56 am to
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because US black Americans more than double the sub-Saharan Africa murder rate,


Black immigrants are far more industrious and more well mannered.
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