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re: Gun Store Owner Refuses to Transfer Firearm to Antifa Supporter
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:03 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:03 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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If you can’t see how this will be used against conservatives and Christians you are blind.
How will it be "used against" them?
THIS is where all the leftist filth want to embrace the 'muh slippery slope' argument. It's all too rich.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:05 am to Y.A. Tittle
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THIS is where all the leftist filth want to embrace the 'muh slippery slope' argument. It's all too rich.
Explain it, lib.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:06 am to EZE Tiger Fan
"If Antifa guy passes all requirements, give the man his gun."
So you're in favor of allowing anyone to have a firearm? Criminals? Emotionally unstable people? Terrorists?
So you're in favor of allowing anyone to have a firearm? Criminals? Emotionally unstable people? Terrorists?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Explain it, lib.
Do you think I was talking about you there?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:09 am to Y.A. Tittle
Were you talking about bird35?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:10 am to Roaad
Dude you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I was an FFL holder. I had a guy ship me a gun he bought offline. He did not pass the background check. The gun was shipped back to the place he bought it from. Just because you "bought" it doesn't mean you get to possess it.
Also the ATF agent told me when he did his initial inspection that I had the right to refuse any sale and I was supposed to look for suspicious people trying to obtain a gun. If I sold them a gun I could be liable.
Also the ATF agent told me when he did his initial inspection that I had the right to refuse any sale and I was supposed to look for suspicious people trying to obtain a gun. If I sold them a gun I could be liable.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I was talking about anyone trying to invoke the slippery slope argument here. Mostly the guy who started it, but anyone else joining in with him on such silliness, sure. Lib? Simmer down.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:13 am to Roaad
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So you have an issue with the 2nd Amendment
That's what you gathered from my post?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:13 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I was talking about anyone trying to invoke the slippery slope argument here.
Pretty sure that dude isn't "leftist filth."
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Lib? Simmer down.
Don't act like one.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Don't act like one.
Never have, I don't think.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:34 am to Tasty Thrill
I'm sure it'll be worked out in court, but the ATF when they give out a license to deal firearms have specific callouts that allow the dealer to decline the sale or transfer of a firearm at their discretion without repercussions, even if the individual passes all required background checks.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:54 am to RolltidePA
quote:Exactly.
but the ATF when they give out a license to deal firearms have specific callouts that allow the dealer to decline the sale or transfer of a firearm at their discretion without repercussions, even if the individual passes all required background checks.
You have to give FFL holders the leeway to deny applicants based on their observations and the behavior of the applicant.
If you suspect someone is mentally ill, you shouldn’t be forced to allow the transfer.
And anyone affiliated with Antifa is definitely mentally ill.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:22 am to bird35
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If you can’t see how this will be used against conservatives and Christians you are blind.
Ummmm.. can’t see? They perfected it. Bake the cake or be ruined?? Do that wedding or be ruined?? Use my pronouns or be fired?? Take that Bible off your desk or be fired??
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:34 am to Figgy
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Honestly I’m surprised there is antifa there. Eugene is about 90 minutes away and I would expect them there with the college being there. Florence is a sleepy small town outside of summer when they get vacationers.
Giving the shop owner an Antifa business card strongly suggests that the customer was looking to provoke an incident and probably an eventual lawsuit. They might have had to buy and ship guns to multiple dealers before one refused.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:37 am to shinerfan
Agree. They were poking the bear. Why does anticrap show a business card to a gun shop?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:02 am to jrobic4
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As great as it is to give them a dose of their own medicine, 2nd Amendment still reads "Shall not be infringed"
I'm not a hypocrite, so I agree with this statement 100%. If that dumbass hasn't broken any laws that would prohibit him from legally purchasing a firearm then I see no reason to keep it from him. What if the tables were turned and it was a gun dealer that refused to either do are approve a background check because the gun buyer was wearing a MAGA hat?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:05 am to mtb010
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What if the tables were turned and it was a gun dealer that refused to either do are approve a background check because the gun buyer was wearing a MAGA hat?
In theory, I fully support a business owner's right to do business, or not, with whomever he chooses. As a practical matter, how many leftwing gun store owners are out there?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:10 am to Damone
quote:He may have a Constitutional right to own a firearm, but a shop owner has no Constitutional (or even statutory) OBLIGATION to sell him one (unless AntiFa membership is a protected class).
Sorry, I don’t judge who gets to avail themselves of constitutional rights by what politics they prefer.
This case is more complex, because the shop owner is not the seller, and he may have been contractually-obligated to complete the transaction that had already been initiated by the willing buyer and willing seller, with him serving as little more than an agent for that seller.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:13 am to mtb010
quote:That too would be the shop owner's right, so long as political affiliation is not a "protected class."quote:I'm not a hypocrite, so I agree with this statement 100%. If that dumbass hasn't broken any laws that would prohibit him from legally purchasing a firearm then I see no reason to keep it from him. What if the tables were turned and it was a gun dealer that refused to either do are approve a background check because the gun buyer was wearing a MAGA hat?
As great as it is to give them a dose of their own medicine, 2nd Amendment still reads "Shall not be infringed"
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:13 am to Y.A. Tittle
I certainly am not going around handing out business cards expressing my loyalty to some extremist group that I understand will cause some reactions.
I would expect blowback. I'm a normal person who understands these things, not sure why this person is surprised, my guess is that it was a setup.
I would expect blowback. I'm a normal person who understands these things, not sure why this person is surprised, my guess is that it was a setup.
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