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re: Gun rights don't come from the second amendment
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:39 am to Jcorye1
Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.
That "THE" means the freedom of speech existed before the gment and congress doesn't have the authority to change it, it is arguably the most important word in the Bill of Rights.
That "THE" means the freedom of speech existed before the gment and congress doesn't have the authority to change it, it is arguably the most important word in the Bill of Rights.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:39 am to TBoy
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All rights, natural or otherwise, have boundaries
Nah. This is just something people say when they are confused about rights.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:46 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
The gun f’nuts secure your liberty
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:51 am to airfernando
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They're an insurance policy to protect against total tyranny, however nobody is making the government abide by anything and they haven't for a long time. The very fact that you have to pay a tax in most states to carry a gun is absolute proof. Our nation has been operating as a 50% defacto marxist nation since the 1910's. The very reason we have federal income tax is because of the unity of bankers and marxists from that time period.
Most Americans have no clue how crucial the formation of the Federal Reserve in order to implement economic control over the American people. I’m not going to spew out a detailed diatribe against the Global Banking Cabal but the info is out there if you want to lift the vail on the rigged fractional reserve banking system and why the Banksters never lose.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:14 am to Revelator
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Yes, because historically, only religious people enslave others!
You gave a specific example, and I gave a specific reply. Don't switch to generalities now that it doesn't suit your position.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:15 am to troyt37
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sword
Nope.
Try again.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You gave a specific example, and I gave a specific reply. Don't switch to generalities now that it doesn't suit your position.
I'm not speaking in generalities. I was simply pointing out your absurdity that slavery somehow found its roots in religion.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Nope. Try again.
Sword, bow, or spear, the results would be the same. I'm not going to argue with you.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:39 am to ChineseBandit58
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There would be massive desertion from any command that even insinuated such a travesty.
I’d be willing to bet that there would be a lot of equipment stolen that day as well.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:42 am to Revelator
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I'm not speaking in generalities.
Of course you were.
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I was simply pointing out your absurdity that slavery somehow found its roots in religion.
That isn't what I said.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:43 am to troyt37
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Sword, bow, or spear, the results would be the same.
No, they wouldn't.
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I'm not going to argue with you.
That's probably a good idea.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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No, they wouldn't.
You're embarrassing yourself. Take a break, read up on St. Thomas Aquinas and John Lock then come back on here and apologize for your ignorance
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:59 am to Pdubntrub
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You're embarrassing yourself. Take a break, read up on St. Thomas Aquinas and John Lock then come back on here and apologize for your ignorance
You're not even following the conversation.
Be quiet.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:10 am to Antonio Moss
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As someone who is a strong advocate of the second amendment, the DOI does not hold that every right is a natural right.
No but the right to defend yourself is self evident and inalienable, is it not?
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:13 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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There would be massive desertion from any command that even insinuated such a travesty.
I’d be willing to bet that there would be a lot of equipment stolen that day as well.
Nah. The military will have no problem killing whoever the chain of command orders them to kill. Plenty of historical evidence to support this.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:15 am to Revelator
The founders assumed we would keep arms for hunting, protection from bandits and repelling foreign invaders. Those twenty seven words are directed directly at keeping the government in check. Read the federalist papers and you'll see that maybe they gave us too much credit.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:20 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You're not even following the conversation. Be quiet.
It's obvious you don't know where your rights come from. St. Thomas Aquinas explains better than anyone to me outside of John Locke. It's not necessary to be a Christian to believe that rights are natural.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:22 am to Pdubntrub
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John Locke
Well, at least you got his name right this time.
When someone appeals to Locke without substance, it lets me know I don't have to take them seriously.
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It's not necessary to be a Christian to believe that rights are natural.
Link to anything I've said that contradicts this.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:24 am to Deuces
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