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re: Guatemala is investigating U.S. NGOs for child trafficking, seeks Texas AG collaboration
Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:46 am to ninthward
Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:46 am to ninthward
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He will mock you for not knowing about this version of trafficking
This is primarily labor trafficking, so it's along the lines of what I've said
The only allegations of anything sexual are the unfortunate sexual abuse while in American shelters, which is in no way implied to be the purpose of the trafficking.
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:50 am to Von
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Of the worst kind. The designation itself screams asshattery to me. They can't just say they're non profit.
WE ARE NOT THE GOVERNMENT!! As they burn government money doing shite for governments that governments can't legally do.
Aren't they also immune from any type of government oversight like audits and such?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:54 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Aren't they also immune from any type of government oversight like audits and such?
No
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:06 am to Rebel
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SFP won’t like this.
DIdn't he say this wasn't happening? It's all a far right wing conspiracy theory conjured up to promote fear about the border?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:11 am to Paddyshack
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DIdn't he say this wasn't happening?
No child labor trafficking definitely happens
I mean child sex trafficking happens, too, just less and primarily in areas nowhere near the US. Sex trafficking generally is found in Asia, Eastern Europe, and Africa.
Does it happen here? Sure. Is it common? No. Is it part of some international conspiracy for blood sacrifices? No.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:13 am to Paddyshack
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DIdn't he say this wasn't happening? It's all a far right wing conspiracy theory conjured up to promote fear about the border?
He's playing passive defense. He can't say what he wants out loud. So, he tries to minimize, obfuscate, etc.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:16 am to moneyg
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He's playing passive defense
No. My point is clear
The straw men are used to
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minimize, obfuscate, etc
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:20 am to SloaneRanger
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radical gay and trans activists
Catholic church has essentially been one big Homosexuality grooming operation for 100 years now.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:21 am to ronricks
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Most of the Protestant denominations have been captured by radical gay and trans activists.
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Catholic church has essentially been one big Homosexuality grooming operation for 100 years now.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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Does it happen here? Sure. Is it common? No.
Wrong. Again. No shocker there.
This perfectly describes you.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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Catholic church has essentially been one big Homosexuality grooming operation for 100 years now.
So is it happening or no?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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I mean child sex trafficking happens, too, just less and primarily in areas nowhere near the US. Sex trafficking generally is found in Asia, Eastern Europe, and Africa
Had this conversation with a priest friend the other day, who insisted that sex trafficking is common here in the good old USA. As it turned out, our difference in understanding was a difference in the terms.
The term “sex trafficking” isn’t being used to describe kidnapping or involuntary movement and isolation of people for the purpose of exploitation. (That’s how I always understood the term.) The term “trafficking” is now being used for any involuntary or coerced sex work. The old term “pimp” has been replaced with “sex trafficker.” When understood this way, it makes more sense.
So what is being described using the term “sex trafficking” is simply the existence of prostitution with some level of coercion or abuse. That exists in virtually every community. The most common situation, far and away the most common, is sexual abuse and coercion by caretakers and family members of the victim. If they take a picture of the abused child and share it on the internet, they are a sex trafficker. If they “pimp” the abused person, they are a sex trafficker.
The idea of kidnapping and selling into sexual slavery is extremely rare and not actually what is being described using the new terminology.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:25 am to Paddyshack
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This perfectly describes you.
a. Not a liberal
b. I posted lots of data to back up my claims the last 3 times this discussion came up. You can look them up.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:25 am to Paddyshack
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So is it happening or no?
Child rape in the Catholic church is documented. He didn't say trafficking.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Yes or No
Were you sexually abused (or abused in any other way) as a child?
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:29 am to TBoy
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The term “sex trafficking” isn’t being used to describe kidnapping or involuntary movement and isolation of people for the purpose of exploitation. (That’s how I always understood the term.) The term “trafficking” is now being used for any involuntary or coerced sex work. The old term “pimp” has been replaced with “sex trafficker.” When understood this way, it makes more sense.
Yes. The terminology has changed. People who want to give government more power always change the definition of words to achieve that goal.
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The most common situation, far and away the most common, is sexual abuse and coercion by caretakers and family members of the victim.
Yes. Minor sex trafficking, too. The vast majority of cases involve a family member or friend of the family. The rest of the minority are dominated by runaways from...households of physical and sexual abuse.
The primary cause of what ends up as "child sex trafficking" in the US isn't some international conspiracy. It's sexual and/or physical abuse by family. The #2 cause is sexual abuse by close family friends.
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The idea of kidnapping and selling into sexual slavery is extremely rare
Correct. "Stranger danger" happens but is VERY rare.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:31 am to moneyg
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Were you sexually abused (or abused in any other way) as a child?
No. My family didn't roll like that.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:47 am to Paddyshack
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DIdn't he say this wasn't happening?
He hasn’t been the same since “The Sound of Freedom” came out.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:49 am to Rebel
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He hasn’t been the same since “The Sound of Freedom” came out.
I've been posting about this (the Police State manufacturing the "human trafficking crisis" to replace the War on Drugs) for like 10+ years.
Long before that guy's grift started
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:52 am to SlowFlowPro
Just be careful. They got Jared. They can get you too.
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